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In New Yawk they must have higher standards.
Meh I think it's a lot more about getting rid of a prominent democrat than it was about actually cleaning anything up. The guy sent dirty pictures. There wasn't even actual sex involved or money involved. Though he did do the stupidest thing of all which was lie about it. But really there's NO consistency.
Most Republicans didn't call for the ouster of the SC governor that lied about being with his Argentinian mistress! And he's still in office. . . . The media firestorm around that was about half what Weiner's was . . .
Most Republicans didn't call for the ouster of the SC governor that lied about being with his Argentinian mistress! And he's still in office. . . . The media firestorm around that was about half what Weiner's was . . .
He became a liability to The Party, Comrade. Morality and ethics don't apply to Dems. If it did, several of the prominent would be missing.There is probably more to this story than we have heard, the Dems see him as a liability and were working the hardest to oust him.
I'm pretty sure "salacious" was a lesser consideration than politics.There may be more salacious stuff that was going to surface and this is just damage control.
It won't, obviously. It will make some of them more cautious, but inspiring fear? Seriously doubt it.Just a thought, I'm still glad any of these dirtbags are publicly shamed, hopefully it strikes fear into them all. :down:
There are plenty of politicians that have done worse than Weiner that are STILL in congress, from both parties. The furor over Weiner was overblown compared to that over other politicians. Anything to distract from the issues at hand.
The STATE Supreme Court, as split as it could be, held that the legislative process had been conducted appropriately in relation to a fairly technical issue... :chuckle: You should think of writing copy for Sean Hannity though.the news has been dominated by lebron, casey, and weiner
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I was worried about everyone missing what is going on in wisconsin
did you hear that the supreme court upheld the anti-union legislation by a 4-3 vote?
Clinton destroyed the dignity of the office.
Barry Sorotro destroyed the validity of the office.
Interesting that you would say that.Greater Context.
You mean Nixon, with his sponsoring of illegal activity. Or Kennedy, who preceded an amateurish extramarital activity on Clinton's part with his own practice...Or Grant and the absurd corruption that riddled his administration...or...but you should have the point.Clinton destroyed the dignity of the office.
An unfortunate lack of respect for the office aside, how so?Barry Sorotro destroyed the validity of the office.
How was he forced again?Frankly, I find the fact that he was forced to resign, and yes, he was essentially forced, is absurd.
Where I think its of a piece and people are more uniformly disturbed and disgusted.Yes, he messed up. Yes, he lied about it (which I believe should be the bigger issue). The problem is, people focus on the fact that he messed up more than the fact that he lied.
By which you mean people with poor vocabularies or worse morals?What he did wasn't a crime. What he did may not even count as cheating depending on who you ask.
He broke faith with the people who elected him and he understands that. If the only standard we're held to is a violation of law then our society is operating in safe mode with a crash pending.Should he have lied? No, of course not. But frankly, what he did is a matter that strictly should be between him and his wife. It doesn't affect his politics, nor his effectiveness.
Should he have lied? No, of course not. But frankly, what he did is a matter that strictly should be between him and his wife. It doesn't affect his politics, nor his effectiveness.
Originally Posted by NY Times
"Democratic leaders had prepared to hold a meeting on Thursday to determine whether they should strip Mr. Weiner of his committee assignments, which would have severely impaired his effectiveness."
I honestly think the whole reaction was more of a problem than the original incident. Sure, he shouldn't have lied about it, but I can kinda understand why he would.
It would be interesting to compare quotes from people defending Clinton vs. roasting Wiener (pun intended).
If only I had the energy
Seemed incredibly foolish to make this mistake in the first place, but he must've known sooner or later the full truth would out even as he made the rounds on TV.