John Mortimer
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Because life is consciousness.
toldailytopic: The origin of life.
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People in a coma are not alive? Single celled organisms are not alive? Trees are not alive?
John Mortimer
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Yes they are.
People in a coma are conscious? Single celled organisms are conscious? Trees are conscious?
John Mortimer
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Yes.... just not within the vibrational frequencies of our 3rd density reality.
Why do you even bother?
Why do you even bother?
Sorry. Didn't realize you were kidding when you made your "Frankenstein" post.
Alate_One
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Why would you think evolution would automatically mean a non-literal Adam? Why would you think the fall is non-literal or that even if it were non-literal in the context of the Adam and Eve story that it was not symbolic of the global fall of humanity? Couldn't God have chosen two of the first true humans to place into the garden. Or you could believe that God specially created humans alone, taking their form from the apes. There are a myriad of options. I'm not really sold on any particular one of them.
But feel free to learn about some . . . .
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I don't think it was "meant" entirely figuratively, however that doesn't mean that it isn't ultimately figurative. We have to remember that the culture that produced Genesis is not the same one that produced the gospel. The difference between "Fact" and "figurative" was not the same sort of bright line that we have today.
Sozo again
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No.
Sozo again
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Unless I ask a question, why would I say something I'm not sure about?
I am not particularly good at divining what is meant by a series of single disconnected words. How about actually making a coherent sentence that expresses your idea or asks a question?
Where did this "Beginner of things" come from?
* Cosmological argument:
• Everything that had a beginning has a cause.
• The universe had a beginning.
• Therefore, the universe had a cause.
Design argument:
• Every design has a designer.
• The universe—and life—has a highly complex design.
• Therefore, there is a Great Designer.
Moral argument
• Moral laws require a lawgiver
• Absolute moral laws exist.
• Therefore, there is an absolute Moral Lawgiver.
Full text: 10 Q & A on Atheism and Agnosticism pamphlet http://www.vananne.com/culttoasters/Atheism and Agnosticism.PDF
Also see:
Evidence of God by Lee Strobel (Tract) http://www.vananne.com/culttoasters/Evidence of God.htm
The problem with that is, you cannot get something from nothing.
Alate_One
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The problem is non-living material is not "nothing", it is SOMETHING.
Aren't you our resident PhD (phenomenal dud [Rogers])? Where do you get your mass?
Scientists admit that they do not know what over 90% of the universe is. They don't know what it is and they don't know how to find out what it is. Yet, some are sure that something came from nothing and God had no hand in creation. I'll go with what God says (Ge 1:1).
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Alate_One
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There are more PhDs than me here. From matter. Matter = something.
They're using dark matter and dark energy to balance their equations, I'm not sure it exists at all.
Even the Big bang isn't something from nothing. I understand that most people interpret Biblical creation as something from nothing . . . . so . . .why are you having an issue again?
Science 101: Everything that has a beginning has a cause. If you'd like us to believe another theory, please provide us with a first cause. If you'd like us to believe another theory, please provide us with matter (and no borrowing God's; you'll have to get your own).
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