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[Nathon Detroit]

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[Town Heretic]

toldailytopic: NDE: Near Death Experiences, what significance (if any) are such events?

:think: I'd say the most significant thing is the near part...but that's just me. lain:

 

[Nathon Detroit]

toldailytopic: NDE: Near Death Experiences, what significance (if any) are such events?

:think: I'd say the most significant thing is the near part...but that's just me. lain:

So what do you make of the visions, and the odd (yet very similar) experiences many people describe when they have a near death experience?

 

[Adoration]

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I think these events are significant evidence that human life is contained in a soul, not a body.

 

[Oh no... it's Sozo]

So what do you make of the visions, and the odd (yet very similar) experiences many people describe when they have a near death experience?

Lofty imaginations.

 

[elohiym]

...the odd (yet very similar) experiences many people describe...

One possibility is that they are having similar physiological responses to the injuries that cause their temporary state of "death," i.e. the brain turns physiological responses to injury (dropping blood pressure, etc.) into visual images (walking through tunnel towards white light, etc.).

 

[Town Heretic]

So what do you make of the visions, and the odd (yet very similar) experiences many people describe when they have a near death experience?

For the most part I'm inclined to believe it's a physiological impression of the system shutting down impacting the mind. You'd expect a certain commonality in that respect. Maybe the mind's response to dying is something like it's response to outside stimuli during sleep. Ever had an alarm work itself into your dream state?

Looks as though Elo is on the same track. Didn't read through the posts before answering.

 

[Nathon Detroit]

One possibility is that they are having similar physiological responses to the injuries that cause their temporary state of "death," i.e. the brain turns physiological responses to injury (dropping blood pressure, etc.) into visual images (walking through tunnel towards white light, etc.).

For the most part I'm inclined to believe it's a physiological impression of the system shutting down impacting the mind. You'd expect a certain commonality in that respect. Maybe the mind's response to dying is something like it's response to outside stimuli during sleep. Ever had an alarm work itself into your dream state?

Looks as though Elo is on the same track. Didn't read through the posts before answering.

I agree with both of you.

Now... in light of that... what can we learn from NDE's

 

[Oh no... it's Sozo]

Now... in light of that... what can we learn from NDE's

Try not to have one.

 

[Town Heretic]

Try not to have one.

:chuckle:

... what can we learn from NDE's

That there's no substitute for faith.

 

[Ktoyou]

For the most part I'm inclined to believe it's a physiological impression of the system shutting down impacting the mind. You'd expect a certain commonality in that respect. Maybe the mind's response to dying is something like it's response to outside stimuli during sleep. Ever had an alarm work itself into your dream state?

Looks as though Elo is on the same track. Didn't read through the posts before answering.

For the most part, you are correct.

 

[Ktoyou]

I agree with both of you.

Now... in light of that... what can we learn from NDE's

More about the brain than the soul. I do not believe God allows people to peek. No substitute for faith, it is just another human attempt to prove life after death without faith, I'm not buying it.

 

[Persephone66]

My heart stopped once, years ago when I was in the hospital being treated for an infection.

I remember falling asleep, starting to dream, then waking up tied to the bed on a ventilator.

Didn't get any of the visions that you normally hear about people getting. Honestly I think such visions are the brain hallucinating due to a lack of blood/oxygen. You probly just see what you want to see.

 

[Ktoyou]

My heart stopped once, years ago when I was in the hospital being treated for an infection.

I remember falling asleep, starting to dream, then waking up tied to the bed on a ventilator.

Didn't get any of the visions that you normally hear about people getting. Honestly I think such visions are the brain hallucinating due to a lack of blood/oxygen. You probly just see what you want to see.

Oh, you are getting cold peewee!

 

[freelight]

continous experience of life.............

continous experience of life.............

~*~*~

Ample is shared and elaborated here, for your researching pleasure

NDE's and the Afterlife

When looking at all the data, it implies its own significance, namely the continuation of consciousness 'outside' the physical brain/body, for many are pronounced 'dead' for some time, while they have their 'experience', then remember returning to their body. NDE's have their own contextual definitions/implications...while general research on the Afterlife, spirit-communication, religious philosophy, inspired writings, and man's own intuition adds to his sense that life does continue in some form beyond this physical dimension.

This touches all fields of science, metaphysics, religion and philosophy about the nature of 'energy' and 'consciousness', add further the concept of 'immortality'. Such expressly proves the principles of Spiritualism, particularly the universal laws of soul-progress and continuation of life in the spirit-world.



pj

 

[andyc]

Near death experiences maybe nothing more than a dream, but an actual death experience where the spirit leaves the body, will be genuine (James 2:26).
It shouldn't seem unnatural for a Christian to temporarily enter heaven for a while if they have prematurely died before their time (from God's perspective). As Ktoyou pointed out, experiences like this shouldn't be a substitute for faith to those having the experience, as well as those who hear such testimonies.
Paul and John both went to heaven, and Paul stated that he wasn't sure if his experience was an out of body experience (2Cor 12:2).

Absent from the body, present with the Lord. I see nohing unscriptural about a temporal absence from the body, present with the Lord. The danger is "pride". If anyone would feel self important over such an experience, the experience itself would be counterproductive. This is why Paul said, "I know a man who.....". He didn't want people to think more of him because of his experience.