toldailytopic: Memorial Day Weekend: What does it represent for you?

[Tambora]

There is a time for every purpose under heaven,

:up:

Ecclesiastes 3
(1) To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
(2) A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
(3) A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
(4) A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
(5) A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
(6) A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
(7) A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
(8) A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
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In any given situation in your life, all you gotta ask yourself is, "What time is it?".

 

[Nick M]

There's nothing like a little gratitude. And your sentiment certainly qualifies.

Enjoy the liberty to spout glibly ill-considered responses, bought in part by the blood sacrifice of better men you insult with the effort.

It is the soldier that allows him the liberty to badmouth soldiers and our country. Got a knife?

 

[Nick M]

It's the day that we honor all those in America who thought that the business of killing people would be a good career choice.

Some people need to die.

 

[Ecumenicist]

The deaths of men who perished in unnecessary wars started by thugs.

The fallen deserved better.

I think this is a great comment... Recognizing they "deserved better" honors their sacrifice. Nicely said.

 

[Traditio]

It is the soldier that allows him the liberty to badmouth soldiers and our country. Got a knife?

It's the other soldiers that threaten my liberty to badmouth soldiers. If people just stopped taking up arms and threatening others with violence, my liberty to badmouth soldiers (or anyone else, for that matter) would never have come into question.

Look: "All we are saying is give peace a chance." - John Lennon

 

[Traditio]

Irrelevant to your original point regarding the motivation of those who serve.

Your motivations were retarded: "Hey, we should stop those guys from hurting women and children. To do this, let's drop bombs on those women and children! Let's kill their fathers and husbands; let's make them widows and orphans. Let's destroy their homes, turn their neighborhoods into desolate wastelands. If we can't at least succeed in putting them out of their misery, let's at least turn their lives completely upside down!" Brilliant! :nono:

Sin.

You say "sin." I say "greedy, warmongering, bourgeosie profiteers." Soldiers are corporate pawns. There's a lot of money to be made in war. But you have to kill people to get it. [Consider reading Catch-22, et al.] :nono:

 

[faramir77]

Remember General George Washington great victory over the Japs at Little Big Horn.

 

[elohiym]

Your motivations were retarded ....

And you are free to speak your mind. lain:

God bless liberty! :cheers:

 

[rocketman]

The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for May 28th, 2011 09:53 AM

toldailytopic: Memorial Day Weekend: What does it represent for you?

Memorial Day is an important time to honor and reflect on the sacrifice that many have made for this country. All freedom is bought with a price which is usually blood. In this country even the chuckle heads that besmirch the military should take stock in the fact that the very military they hate has given them the right to speak against it. They have given us their best the least we as American's can do is honor their sacrifice.

God Bless the United States Military and its fallen Heros....

Rocketman

 

[red cardinal]

Because people have value, and you shouldn't want to kill them.

Defense is not an impetus for killing, it is a necessity. I am assuming that you don't believe the Bible is a reliable source of Truth? If you did, you would understand that killing is a necessity in certain circumstances. God, Himself, killed and innocent people to boot. Do you think He believes people have "value"?

 

[red cardinal]

:up:

Ecclesiastes 3
(1) To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
(2) A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
(3) A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
(4) A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
(5) A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
(6) A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
(7) A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
(8) A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
​

In any given situation in your life, all you gotta ask yourself is, "What time is it?".

BINGO ...... :up: Ecc 3 is an excellent passage :first: Kind of hard to dispute what God put in the mind of Solomon to write, huh?

 

[red cardinal]

It's the other soldiers that threaten my liberty to badmouth soldiers. If people just stopped taking up arms and threatening others with violence, my liberty to badmouth soldiers (or anyone else, for that matter) would never have come into question.

Look: "All we are saying is give peace a chance." - John Lennon

So you are a pacifist.... There is no peace on earth and never will be in this age. There will always be wars, always soldiers, always the battle strategies, always killing, always loved ones lost and maimed - that is life. Get used to it.

 

[Ps82]

We are flying our flag and remembering the great sacrifices that our young men and women have made for our country. Memorial day reminds me that freedom has enemies ... and that the personal cost of maintaining freedom is even greater than the monetary expenses. It reminds me that our fight is on-going; so, we must continue to be vigilant with courage as long a we have enemies.

Sadly, that means that we will see our children sacrificed as in times past. Since people of all nations sadly loose their children in war, it reminds me that all wars are spiritual battles for men's souls and due to what is in men's hearts. If men loved peace, then there would be peace... but men's hearts are bent on evil... and bent on seeking wealth and territory, which affords them power to control. Whether their stated motives are religious or governmental ... at the bottom of it is that people need territory and money for power and control... and this is why they go to war.

We have family and friends who have suffered in World War II, Korea, Vietnam, and even now our son serves. He missed the battles of the Middle East, but he has served in patrolling dangerous water ways, gun runners, and pirates. He is currently on duty in Japan. He had the privilege of helping victims after the earthquake.

We had a family cookout last evening and will continue to fly our flag and remember what our family, and our U.S. men and women have done to fight our enemies of freedom.

 

[Persephone66]

It's the day that we honor all those in America who thought that the business of killing people would be a good career choice. :nono:

It's the day we honour those that put their lives on the line so some stupid scumbag like you can disrespect them.

 

[Lon]

Memorial day, to me, means "thank you."

You are loved, appreciated, and remembered.

 

[Ps82]

My Father in law, who recently passed away at age 87, fought in World War II. He lost his leg in a tank battle in France and was in the hospital for a year due to his burns and injuries. For years he lived like so many of our soldiers today - without a limbs. I never once heard him complain about life having been unfair to him ... and to me this exemplifies what a hero is made of. We remember those who lost their lives ... but we also remember the living, who live with courage ... and who live with terrible memories of what man is willing to do to man.

My loved ones, who returned from Vietnam, have told me of the terrible things men within that country were willing to do to each other. When our soldiers, placed in that environment, emotionally lost it and harmed innocent citizens, we were extremely hard on them... when the truth was: that our soldiers never were sure who their friends or their enemies were.

By day a village was friendly working along side our soldiers to build schools and facilities, but at night they were secretly terrorized by the enemy ... and they turned into our hidden enemy by the next day. Then we humiliated, rejected, and chastised our soldiers on the ground in the midst of a world gone made when they committed crimes of passion???

So, who is innocent in a war? Don't we believe that our enemies would kill our regular citizens if need be? Does this sort of thinking really mean that we some how value the lives of our soldiers less than those of our stay-at-home citizen? Have we gone mad ... or gone soft???

 

[Town Heretic]

A pacifist is someone who has the conviction of other people's courage. lain:

 

[Nick M]

It's the other soldiers that threaten my liberty to badmouth soldiers. If people just stopped taking up arms and threatening others with violence, my liberty to badmouth soldiers (or anyone else, for that matter) would never have come into question.

Look: "All we are saying is give peace a chance." - John Lennon

And since the people you support (socialists-commies, nazi's, fascists, ba'athists, al-quida, North Korea, Iran, Syria, Russia) won't do as you ask, what is your next step? They will not put their weapons down until you are dead. What then?

 

[Traditio]

And since the people you support (socialists-commies, nazi's, fascists, ba'athists, al-quida, North Korea, Iran, Syria, Russia) won't do as you ask, what is your next step? They will not put their weapons down until you are dead. What then?

1. I'd like to point out that I don't "support" any of the above, except, perhaps, for a very specific brand of Fascism.

2. You make it out as though reconciliation is impossible. I can believe that some people are just crazy. I can't believe that most of them are. Fact is, we have a lot of problems with the third world because the US historically has been involved, just like the other nations of the 1st world, in international exploitation (in particular, economic exploitation). The key to world peace isn't war. That's ridiculous and contradictory. The key to world peace is ensuring that all nations deal with each other justly and equitably.

But wait. You're a conservative. I forgot: you don't believe in fairness. :nono:

 

[Traditio]

And you are free to speak your mind. lain:

God bless liberty! :cheers:

Liberty is just a word. [See "Johnny Got His Gun."] What liberties exactly have the soldiers gained for us? How do I know that I have those liberties? How can I measure how much liberty I have? How much more liberty do we have than the Swiss? Do the Swiss die as much for liberty as US soldiers do?

Elohiym, if you would have died in Kuwait, all that you would have died for is an empty, hollow word. That's it. The sound. Politicians would have sat around laughing about you: "Elohiym died for 'liberty!' Oh, how convenient! Now we can tell everyone that the war was worth it. We'll tell them that Elohiym died for liberty, and they'll never be able to prove us wrong!" :nono:

What is Democracy? - Johnny Got His Gun