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toldailytopic: In your opinion what are some of the most convincing pieces of evidence that God exists?






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I have always been intrigued by the Periodic Table of the Elements.
The mathematic beauty of it's order.
Basic units have the power to unite with other basic units and form new and useful things! It is a plan.
A plan requires a planner. It is inconceiveable to me that the orderly progression of the elements just happened to happen.
Other than that? Love that has been shown to me and the love that I feel for others also is part of the plan.
The Acts of the Apostles simply reinforces my belief in Jesus Christ as Son of God.
I believe! It is simply by grace that I believe.
 

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Establishment of Israel

The State of Israel, the first Jewish state for nearly 2,000 years, was proclaimed at 1600 on 14 May 1948 in Tel Aviv. The declaration came into effect the following day as the last British troops withdrew. Palestinians remember 15 May as "al-Nakba", or the Catastrophe.

The year had begun with Jewish and Arab armies each staging attacks on territory held by the other side. Jewish forces, backed by the Irgun and Lehi militant groups made more progress, seizing areas alloted to the Jewish state but also conquering substantial territories allocated for the Palestinian one.

Irgun and Lehi massacred scores of inhabitants of the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem on 9 April. Word of the massacre spread terror among Palestinians and hundreds of thousands fled to Lebanon, Egypt and the area now known as the West Bank.

The Jewish armies were victorious in the Negev, Galilee, West Jerusalem and much of the coastal plain.

The day after the state of Israel was declared five Arab armies from Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq immediately invaded Israel but were repulsed, and the Israeli army crushed pockets of resistance. Armistices established Israel's borders on the frontier of most of the earlier British Mandate Palestine.​
 

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Establishment of Israel

The State of Israel, the first Jewish state for nearly 2,000 years, was proclaimed at 1600 on 14 May 1948 in Tel Aviv. The declaration came into effect the following day as the last British troops withdrew. Palestinians remember 15 May as "al-Nakba", or the Catastrophe.

The year had begun with Jewish and Arab armies each staging attacks on territory held by the other side. Jewish forces, backed by the Irgun and Lehi militant groups made more progress, seizing areas alloted to the Jewish state but also conquering substantial territories allocated for the Palestinian one.

Irgun and Lehi massacred scores of inhabitants of the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem on 9 April. Word of the massacre spread terror among Palestinians and hundreds of thousands fled to Lebanon, Egypt and the area now known as the West Bank.

The Jewish armies were victorious in the Negev, Galilee, West Jerusalem and much of the coastal plain.

The day after the state of Israel was declared five Arab armies from Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq immediately invaded Israel but were repulsed, and the Israeli army crushed pockets of resistance. Armistices established Israel's borders on the frontier of most of the earlier British Mandate Palestine.​

This is revisionism history. You failed to mention all of the Jewish settlers who were slaughtered by Palestinian guerilla fighters.
 

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I have always been intrigued by the Periodic Table of the Elements.
The mathematic beauty of it's order.

I agree, it sounds silly but you should try memorising it all, I did and it seems to impress people for what reason... I'm not quite sure.

Learning things like that should be for the self, it's so very worthwhile.

This is a great question too, although I think it strays towards evidentialist Christianity... I suppose you have to seek it at some point, eh?

I thought the whole point of faith was having no evidence or certainty, or the evidence was revelation or influence from God?

If I were Christian the best way for me to defend it would be to say that all the evidence is personal and subjective.
 

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Anything physical.
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One day a group of scientists got together and decided that man had come a long way and no longer needed God. So they picked one scientist to go and tell Him that they were done with Him.

The scientist walked up to God and said, "God, we've decided that we no longer need you. We're to the point that we can clone people and do many miraculous things, so why don't you just go on and get lost."

God listened very patiently and kindly to the man and after the scientist was done talking, God said, "Very well, how about this, let's say we have a man making contest." To which the scientist replied, "OK, great!"

But God added, "Now, we're going to do this just like I did back in the old days with Adam."

The scientist said, "Sure, no problem" and bent down and grabbed himself a handful of dirt.

God just looked at him and said, "No, no, no. You go get your own dirt!"

source
 

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The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for May 9th, 2013 05:00 AM


toldailytopic: In your opinion what are some of the most convincing peices of evidence that God exists?


The entirety of the created order. I find myself marveling at creatures such as insects and birds. I watched a Canada Goose in flight. God was the one who invented aviation. I look at insects. They are little self replicating micro machines...And trees--marvelous oxygen factories that make this world inhabitable for us.
 

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So, you are claiming that the Arabs won the war in 1948?

No, I am claiming that the pre-State of Israel Jewish settlers who immigrated to Palestine after World War II who purchased land from local peoples and tried to reclaim the desert by planting crops and fruit trees were regularly slaughtered by Arab guerillas. So, I am claiming that in the beginning the Jewish settlers, who actually got along fairly well with their local neighbors, had to defend themselves from the depredations of the outside guerillas.
 

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No, I am claiming that the pre-State of Israel Jewish settlers who immigrated to Palestine after World War II who purchased land from local peoples and tried to reclaim the desert by planting crops and fruit trees were regularly slaughtered by Arab guerillas. So, I am claiming that in the beginning the Jewish settlers, who actually got along fairly well with their local neighbors, had to defend themselves from the depredations of the outside guerillas.
Israel becoming a nation fulfilled prophecy.

Isaiah 66:8
Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.​

Even the Arab attempts to destroy Israel are fulfilling prophecy.

Isaiah 54:17
No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.​

 

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Israel becoming a nation fulfilled prophecy.

Isaiah 66:8
Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.​

Even the Arab attempts to destroy Israel are fulfilling prophecy.

Isaiah 54:17
No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.​


I am wondering how this discussion is germane to this thread?
 

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Bacon!
 

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I cant think of anything. Trying to prove God/s exist has always seemed pointless to me.
 
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