toldailytopic: Guns: Good thing? Or bad thing?

[antiknight]

Tell that to every nation that found itself ruled by the sword under the Egyptian, Persian, Greek, and Roman empires.

I didn't say that lesser weapons are harmless. I said that they are easier to deal with and make murder and other crimes harder to commit.

 

[lyngraphics]

The sign in the front yard.

Never mind the dog, beware of gun owner. On the other hand, the neighbor does not believe in guns, and I will not infringe on his beliefs.

Maybe he can fight off his would-be robbers with a butter knife.

 

[antiknight]

For the pro-gun advocates...

QUESTION:
If guns are so good wouldn't it be better to have a superior weapon?

Let's imagine a weapon that can be activated through your computer. You type a name into Google (or whatever) or type in a coordinate (say the permitter of your house) and click "kill" and the target is instantly vaporized by a laser equipped satellite. Killing from the comfort of your home!

Would that be a good thing or a bad thing?

 

[lyngraphics]

For the pro-gun advocates...

QUESTION:
If guns are so good wouldn't it be better to have a superior weapon?

Let's imagine a weapon that can be activated through your computer. You type a name into Google (or whatever) or type in a coordinate (say the permitter of your house) and click "kill" and the target is instantly vaporized by a laser equipped satellite. Killing from the comfort of your home!

Would that be a good thing or a bad thing?

I'd prefer to look my kill in the eye.

 

[The Graphite]

Guns are unbiblical. I have searched and searched, and found no scripture supporting guns.

Swords, on the other hand...

WWJD! He'd tell you to go out and buy a sword, that's what!

 

[GuySmiley]

Inanimate objects are not moral agents....they are neither good nor bad. :nono:

You might just as well ask if a rock is a good or bad thing. lain:

I wonder if freelight has any thoughts on this issue.

 

[Nick M]

And one that hasn't been used in 64 years.

They say that the best weapon is the one you never have to fire. I respectfully disagree. I prefer the weapon you only have to fire once.

 

[Nick M]

I didn't say that lesser weapons are harmless. I said that they are easier to deal with and make murder and other crimes harder to commit.

Well little girl, would it make you feel better if they had been pushed out of a window?

For the pro-gun advocates...

QUESTION:
If guns are so good wouldn't it be better to have a superior weapon?

Yes. But it isn't as important as being able to properly wield the weapon. Equal is just fine. When Colt introduced the revolver with .45LC cartridges, it was called the equalizer for a good reason.

Women like P66 would no longer be an easy target for somebody bigger.

 

[DocJohnson]

I didn't say that lesser weapons are harmless. I said that they are easier to deal with and make murder and other crimes harder to commit.

And yet in almost every horror flick that pours from the Hollywood sewer pipe, the slasher always uses knives, axes, picks, chainsaws and bare hands to perpetrate his crimes against humanity.

Norman Bates (Psycho) - knife
Jason Vorhees (Friday the 13th) - various lesser weapons, including bare hands
Michael Meyers (Halloween) - ditto
Leatherface (Texas Chainsaw Massacre) - chainsaw
Freddy Krueger (Nightmare on Elm Street) - knives
Jack Torrance (The Shining) - axe
Zombies (Night of the Living Dead) - bare hands and teeth
Harry Warden (My Bloody Valentine) - pick-axe
Hannibal Lecter (Silence of the Lambs) - his superior mind
Jigsaw (Saw) - various torturous devices

It seems to me that lesser weapons are so much scarier to the general public than boring ol' guns.

 

[antiknight]

Well little girl, would it make you feel better if they had been pushed out of a window?

No. I don't want that either. Do you?

Yes.

So you would support the internet laser weapon?

 

[Nick M]

Jason Vorhees (Friday the 13th) - various lesser weapons, including bare hands

Momma Vorhees used an arrow as a sword. Creative lady.

 

[Granite]

And yet in almost every horror flick that pours from the Hollywood sewer pipe, the slasher always uses knives, axes, picks, chainsaws and bare hands to perpetrate his crimes against humanity.

Norman Bates (Psycho) - knife
Jason Vorhees (Friday the 13th) - various lesser weapons, including bare hands
Michael Meyers (Halloween) - ditto
Leatherface (Texas Chainsaw Massacre) - chainsaw
Freddy Krueger (Nightmare on Elm Street) - knives
Jack Torrance (The Shining) - axe
Zombies (Night of the Living Dead) - bare hands and teeth
Harry Warden (My Bloody Valentine) - pick-axe
Hannibal Lecter (Silence of the Lambs) - his mind
Jigsaw (Saw) - various torturous devices

It seems to me that lesser weapons are so much scarier to the general public than boring ol' guns.

The weapons you mentioned are far more personal, and primal, I'd say.

 

[antiknight]

And yet in almost every horror flick that pours from the Hollywood sewer pipe, the slasher always uses knives, axes, picks, chainsaws and bare hands to perpetrate his crimes against humanity.

Norman Bates (Psycho) - knife
Jason Vorhees (Friday the 13th) - various lesser weapons, including bare hands
Michael Meyers (Halloween) - ditto
Leatherface (Texas Chainsaw Massacre) - chainsaw
Freddy Krueger (Nightmare on Elm Street) - knives
Jack Torrance (The Shining) - axe
Zombies (Night of the Living Dead) - bare hands and teeth
Harry Warden (My Bloody Valentine) - pick-axe
Hannibal Lecter (Silence of the Lambs) - his mind
Jigsaw (Saw) - various torturous devices

It seems to me that lesser weapons are so much scarier to the general public than boring ol' guns.

I stand corrected. Clearly... horror movie logic is impossible to beat.

 

[Nick M]

No. I don't want that either. Do you?

That isn't the point. The criminal has a hard heart, and is going to commit the violent crime, with or without the firearm.

o you would support the internet laser weapon?

No. You can't properly yield it. That only works on a stationary target, not a moving one.

 

[TomO]

That isn't the point. The criminal has a hard heart, and is going to commit the violent crime, with or without the firearm.



No. You can't properly yield it. That only works on a stationary target, not a moving one.

It would if the laser was big enough. :think:

 

[DocJohnson]

The weapons you mentioned are far more personal, and primal, I'd say.

Yep. Spoooooooky!

 

[antiknight]

No. You can't properly yield it. That only works on a stationary target, not a moving one.

As long as you can lock in your target, it will hit it and kill it, regardless if it is stationary or not.

 

[Nick M]

As long as you can lock in your target, it will hit it and kill it, regardless if it is stationary or not.

You can't lock on the target.

Your make believe weapon isn't even close to being useful, anymore than an old M60 machine gun in my home. I could very easily kill my own family and neighbors as the bullets fly through the walls, for up to 1100 meters.

 

[antiknight]

You can't lock on the target.

You are right. How silly I was to have added that feature to my hypothetical weapon. :doh:

 

[Alate_One]

For the pro-gun advocates...

QUESTION:
If guns are so good wouldn't it be better to have a superior weapon?

Let's imagine a weapon that can be activated through your computer. You type a name into Google (or whatever) or type in a coordinate (say the permitter of your house) and click "kill" and the target is instantly vaporized by a laser equipped satellite. Killing from the comfort of your home!

Would that be a good thing or a bad thing?

Someone has been watching too much Death Note . . . .