toldailytopic: Global flood. Was there a global flood in our history?

[Nathon Detroit]

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toldailytopic: Global flood. Was there a global flood in our history?

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[antiknight]

It isn't even theoretically possible that there was a global flood. Let alone evidence that it occurred.

BUSTED.

 

[fool]

It's still flooded.

 

[Alate_One]

If you mean every scrap of land on the face of the earth was underwater all at once at some time in the past, then no. Much of it has clearly been underwater at DIFFERENT times.

Even if all of the ice on earth melted today, this is all the flooding we would get. Waterworld is totally fake, all we'd lose is Florida and Louisiana oh and Delaware. :chuckle: And the ocean would be within easy driving distance of my house!

 

[Lighthouse]

It sounds like an easy way for Pangaea to be separated.

 

[fool]

If you mean every scrap of land on the face of the earth was underwater all at once at some time in the past, then no. Much of it has clearly been underwater at DIFFERENT times.

Even if all of the ice on earth melted today, this is all the flooding we would get. Waterworld is totally fake, all we'd lose is Florida and Louisiana oh and Delaware. :chuckle: And the ocean would be within easy driving distance of my house!

Do you have a map for before the end of the last galaciation?

 

[GuySmiley]

If you mean every scrap of land on the face of the earth was underwater all at once at some time in the past, then no. Much of it has clearly been underwater at DIFFERENT times.

Even if all of the ice on earth melted today, this is all the flooding we would get. Waterworld is totally fake, all we'd lose is Florida and Louisiana oh and Delaware. :chuckle: And the ocean would be within easy driving distance of my house!

So what you are saying is global warming is no big deal even in the worst case.

 

[Jukia]

It sounds like an easy way for Pangaea to be separated.

Can you explain?

 

[Alate_One]

So what you are saying is global warming is no big deal even in the worst case.

Do you want the people from Florida, Delaware, Louisiana, Houston, New Orleans, New York, DC, Silicon Valley and nearly the entire eastern seaboard having to have to take up residence where you live? The sheer economic loss of that much property?

Human beings can certainly survive even the worst climate change if we make the effort, but the question is would it be the sort of world we'd want to live in?

Huge numbers of plants an animals go extinct, millions of people are displaced. It just doesn't sound like something that is "no big deal" to me.

 

[Alate_One]

Do you have a map for before the end of the last galaciation?

I swear I remember seeing one somewhere. Maybe it was one of those old National Geographic fold outs.

Here's one for southeast Asia.

Here's a lower resolution one for north america

 

[The Berean]

If you mean every scrap of land on the face of the earth was underwater all at once at some time in the past, then no. Much of it has clearly been underwater at DIFFERENT times.

Even if all of the ice on earth melted today, this is all the flooding we would get. Waterworld is totally fake, all we'd lose is Florida and Louisiana oh and Delaware. :chuckle: And the ocean would be within easy driving distance of my house!

Yes, most people don't seem to realize if the entire Arctic ice would melt there would be no rise in sea levels. It's the melted Antarctic ice that would do all the flooding.

 

[Jukia]

Yes, most people don't seem to realize if the entire Arctic ice would melt there would be no rise in sea levels. It's the melted Antarctic ice that would do all the flooding.

Although one would think that global temperatures would need to rise for the arctic ice to melt and that would seem to suggest that the antarctic/greenland etc might melt some too.

 

[GuySmiley]

Do you want the people from Florida, Delaware, Louisiana, Houston, New Orleans, New York, DC, Silicon Valley and nearly the entire eastern seaboard having to have to take up residence where you live? The sheer economic loss of that much property?

Human beings can certainly survive even the worst climate change if we make the effort, but the question is would it be the sort of world we'd want to live in?

Huge numbers of plants an animals go extinct, millions of people are displaced. It just doesn't sound like something that is "no big deal" to me.

I'd take any of them except New York or DC. But I'd still be a long way from the beach so I guess I'll start recycling.

 

[Letters To Earth]

Was there a "Global Flood" No! Was there a flood in Noah's day? Yes! If there were a "water canopy" around the earth something would have had to brake it and it would pop the same way a bubble would. The surface tension would have gathered all the water to one end before it would fall to the earth as rain. There is evidence of this in the Northern Hemisphere, a place called the Grand Canyon comes to mind... Also the ice sheets are much thinner in the northern polar regions, only several thousand feet deep at the most, in the southern polar region they are over 2 miles thick at places. With the water canopy now on the earth the extra weight would have caused massive tectonic movement, thrusting land masses together and building mountains higher than ever existed before. There is plenty of circumstantial evidence if you know where to look for a Biblical flood, but you will never find evidence of a complete "Global Flood"!

As for Global Warming, it is calculated that if all the ice would melt the ocean would rise about 285 feet. Over 200 feet of that would come from Antarctica. It would take along time to melt all that ice, unless it were hit it with a comet large enough to melt it quickly and dump all that water into the ocean and the atmosphere. Something like that would cause Armageddon, God wouldn't do that would he?

Letters to Earth...You Can Survive Armageddon!

 

[Jukia]

Was there a "Global Flood" No! Was there a flood in Noah's day? Yes! If there were a "water canopy" around the earth something would have had to brake it and it would pop the same way a bubble would. The surface tension would have gathered all the water to one end before it would fall to the earth as rain. There is evidence of this in the Northern Hemisphere, a place called the Grand Canyon comes to mind... Also the ice sheets are much thinner in the northern polar regions, only several thousand feet deep at the most, in the southern polar region they are over 2 miles thick at places. With the water canopy now on the earth the extra weight would have caused massive tectonic movement, thrusting land masses together and building mountains higher than ever existed before. There is plenty of circumstantial evidence if you know where to look for a Biblical flood, but you will never find evidence of a complete "Global Flood"!
Letters to Earth...You Can Survive Armageddon!

Wow, just Wow.

 

[fool]

Was there a "Global Flood" No! Was there a flood in Noah's day? Yes! If there were a "water canopy" around the earth something would have had to brake it and it would pop the same way a bubble would. The surface tension would have gathered all the water to one end before it would fall to the earth as rain. There is evidence of this in the Northern Hemisphere, a place called the Grand Canyon comes to mind... Also the ice sheets are much thinner in the northern polar regions, only several thousand feet deep at the most, in the southern polar region they are over 2 miles thick at places. With the water canopy now on the earth the extra weight would have caused massive tectonic movement, thrusting land masses together and building mountains higher than ever existed before. There is plenty of circumstantial evidence if you know where to look for a Biblical flood, but you will never find evidence of a complete "Global Flood"!

As for Global Warming, it is calculated that if all the ice would melt the ocean would rise about 285 feet. Over 200 feet of that would come from Antarctica. It would take along time to melt all that ice, unless it were hit it with a comet large enough to melt it quickly and dump all that water into the ocean and the atmosphere. Something like that would cause Armageddon, God wouldn't do that would he?

Letters to Earth...You Can Survive Armageddon!

Howdy, welcome.

 

[penofareadywriter]

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I know its been a while, but I have way in on this one. And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. Gen7:20" The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered. 21 And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man. 22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died."
Lest say that the whole earth was covered in the flood and God wanted to tells us that, how much clearer could He say it than this? In other words, what would a verse have to look like in order for us to believe that the whole earth was covered?

 

[Alate_One]

Lest say that the whole earth was covered in the flood and God wanted to tells us that, how much clearer could He say it than this? In other words, what would a verse have to look like in order for us to believe that the whole earth was covered?

You realize that a human writer wrote Genesis and neither he nor anyone he was writing to had ANY conception of the earth like we do today.

To assume "the earth" = the globe as we understand it today is twisting the text. You may as well say a chariot is the same thing as a car.

 

[ThePhy]

So what you are saying is global warming is no big deal even in the worst case.

Do you think that the rise in sea level would be the only consequence of global warming?

 

[ThePhy]

… The surface tension would have gathered all the water to one end before it would fall to the earth as rain.

Do you really think the surface tension of water is strong enough to prevail over all the other forces that would be in play?

There is evidence of this in the Northern Hemisphere, a place called the Grand Canyon comes to mind...

But below you say tectonic movement is attributed to this rain. Is the Grand Canyon an artifact of tectonic plates moving?

With the water canopy now on the earth the extra weight would have caused massive tectonic movement, thrusting land masses together and building mountains higher than ever existed before.

Is the observed pattern and rate of tectonic movement supportive of your scenario?