Physical, spiritual, eternal death are possibilities. The latter only applies to the unregenerate.
toldailytopic: Does a Christian lose their salvation every time they sin?
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Physical, spiritual, eternal death are possibilities. The latter only applies to the unregenerate.
No. Sins are forgiven upon repentance.
Samstarrett
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Non sequitir.
If sinning unsaves us, then unsinning saves us.
Samstarrett
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You just said that. It still doesn't follow. Watch this.
If shooting a man kills him, then unshooting him unkills him. Do you see the problem? We cannot unshoot and unkill. Likewise, we cannot unsin.
What sin(singular), and sins(plural)? I have the righteousness of God in Christ.
Forgiveness/Justification in this dispensation
Believers in the gospel of Christ of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 have submitted themselves "unto the righteousness of God"(Romans 10:3). We now have the righteousness of God, Romans 3:21-25, 4:5, secured through the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ(1 Cor. 15:1-4). I have the righteousness of God: Romans 3:22-:26, 4:5, 5:1, 5:9, 5:17-18, 8:30, 10:3; 1 Cor. 1:30, 6:11; 2 Cor. 5:21; Gal. 2:16; Philippians 3:9
The LORD God has justified us forever because He sees us "in Christ": Acts 13;43; Romans 3:24-28, 4:25, 5:1,9, 8:30; 1 Cor. 6:11; Galatians 2:16, 3:24; Titus 3:7. This is an immutable reckoning in the mind of God. Justification is that judicial act of God by which, on account of the Lord Jesus Christ, to whom I am united("in Christ") by faith, He declares me to be no longer exposed to the penalty of the righteous requirements of the law, but restored to divine favor. I have been declared righteous. Justification is an act, not a process. Upon believing 1 Cor. 15:1-4, I was given a free gift(Romans 5:18)-a righteous standing before a Holy God. This gift, by definition, has nothing to do with what I have done or who I am. No amount of self-effort or good works could ever bring one to justification. I did not justify myself-it is God who justifies. This gift is unchanging. Once God declared me righteous on the merit of the eternal Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, the sin/sins question regarding me has been settled once for all.
Members of the BOC are reckoned to be: dead, crucified, raised, seated, glorified.
You cannot re-try a dead man, uncircumcize him, resuscitate him, unseal him, declare him "unadopted"...............
The sin/sins issue was settled 2000 years ago, and The LORD God is satisfied(propitiation). Religion is not.Believe the good news. Most reject it. And so it does....
Forgiveness/Justification in this dispensation
Believers in the gospel of Christ of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 have submitted themselves "unto the righteousness of God"(Romans 10:3). We now have the righteousness of God, Romans 3:21-25, 4:5, secured through the death, burial, and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ(1 Cor. 15:1-4). I have the righteousness of God: Romans 3:22-:26, 4:5, 5:1, 5:9, 5:17-18, 8:30, 10:3; 1 Cor. 1:30, 6:11; 2 Cor. 5:21; Gal. 2:16; Philippians 3:9
The LORD God has justified us forever because He sees us "in Christ": Acts 13;43; Romans 3:24-28, 4:25, 5:1,9, 8:30; 1 Cor. 6:11; Galatians 2:16, 3:24; Titus 3:7. This is an immutable reckoning in the mind of God. Justification is that judicial act of God by which, on account of the Lord Jesus Christ, to whom I am united("in Christ") by faith, He declares me to be no longer exposed to the penalty of the righteous requirements of the law, but restored to divine favor. I have been declared righteous. Justification is an act, not a process. Upon believing 1 Cor. 15:1-4, I was given a free gift(Romans 5:18)-a righteous standing before a Holy God. This gift, by definition, has nothing to do with what I have done or who I am. No amount of self-effort or good works could ever bring one to justification. I did not justify myself-it is God who justifies. This gift is unchanging. Once God declared me righteous on the merit of the eternal Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, the sin/sins question regarding me has been settled once for all.
Members of the BOC are reckoned to be: dead, crucified, raised, seated, glorified.
You cannot re-try a dead man, uncircumcize him, resuscitate him, unseal him, declare him "unadopted"...............
The sin/sins issue was settled 2000 years ago, and The LORD God is satisfied(propitiation). Religion is not.Believe the good news. Most reject it. And so it does....
Can we lose our salvation?
If sinning doesn't unsave then unsinning doesn't save either.
Can we sin if we are not dead?
Samstarrett
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No. Salvation is a work of God.
Could we lose our salvation if salvation wasn't a work of God?
Samstarrett
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Could you swing from a tree by your tail if you weren't a human?
Can conceivable foolish questions get saved if things were different?
Samstarrett
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My point was that if salvation were not a work of God, it would be an entirely different thing. I cannot comment on how that thing would function absent a description of the nature of that thing. You might as well ask me what color a kajoob would be, if it existed.
Understanding hypothetical alternatives (if things were in fact different) advances appreciation, acceptance, to what already exists, to how things are, to how things work, for what we do have, for who we really are, to how we really got here, to where we are, to where we are going, now & for all eternity.
You are stinking up this thread with your non sequiturs. :kookoo:
I wonder if this is an attention getting, self promoting device.
Samstarrett
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OK. But you've merely provided the negation of a true proposition, not an alternative. When you explain the possible alternative means of salvation under discussion, I'll tell you whether we could lose salvation gained by those means. Fair?
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