Are you implying that non-republicans aren't intelligent enough to get their picture taken and having it placed on a piece of plastic?
Also...Indiana has had a voter ID law since 2005. What does 2010 have anything to do with it?
toldailytopic: Do you favor voter ID laws? Why or why not?
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Are you implying that non-republicans aren't intelligent enough to get their picture taken and having it placed on a piece of plastic?
Also...Indiana has had a voter ID law since 2005. What does 2010 have anything to do with it?
The solution is simple. Provide a free photo ID to every eligible voter. And don't make it hard for those without transportation to get one.
No one would do that. Republicans wouldn't because it wouldn't reduce voter turnout among the poor. And no one else would do it, because it solves a problem that's almost non-existent.
Voter fraud, as the courts have found, is almost entirely a matter of keeping people from voting.
No one would do that. Republicans wouldn't because it wouldn't reduce voter turnout among the poor. And no one else would do it, because it solves a problem that's almost non-existent.
Voter fraud, as the courts have found, is almost entirely a matter of keeping people from voting.
If you refuse to read or think for yourself it's not my problem. That you and GO fancy yourselves members of some privileged elite isn't amusing, it's beyond appalling.
People? By that you mean those that are legally qualified or just people in general? Seems that the voter fraud that is in question or in need of credentials is because of illegal unqualified "people" showing up at the polls.
Daedalean's_Sun
New member
This is an excellent idea. The costs of obtaining the paperwork for getting an ID should be waived too, if an ID is required for voting, otherwise being considered a poll tax.
eameece
New member
Of course he's not serious, and neither was the crack about owning land.
eameece
New member
Having to show ID slows down voting; Republicans want fewer people voting.
quoting the web article linked below:
Benjamin Griffith, partner at Griffith & Griffith in Cleveland, Miss., and editor of the first and second editions of America Votes! said “The biggest concern is that [the laws] are a barrier,” noting the well-known case of Viviette Applewhite, who has voted in every election for the past 50 years but says she won’t be able to cast a ballot this fall because of the ID law in Pennsylvania. “She doesn’t have a copy of her birth certificate because she was adopted, and she doesn’t have a driver’s license,” Griffith said, because she doesn’t drive. Applewhite is the plaintiff in a suit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union against Pennsylvania.
In most states that have passed this law, the preferred ID is one issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles, Arnwine said. But more than 20 million people have no ID issued by the DMV, she said. Often, people don’t have the required birth certificate or Social Security card, for example, needed to acquire a license or government-issued ID from the DMV. “Everyone is affected,” Arnwine said, “and women are disproportionately affected” because of name changes due to marriage or divorce. Women may not have updated identification or may struggle to obtain new identification after these life changes, she said.
http://www.lawyerscommittee.org/newsroom/clips?id=0603
ID laws won't put Gore or Kerry in office instead of Bush. That was the fraud. Your voter ID laws will do nothing about that. We have voting machines that are hacked and break down. Poor and minoroty districts often have the worst machines. We also have restrictions on early voting being enacted. The vote should be held on weekends as well as Tuesdays. Your voter ID laws will do nothing about these things.
Because many states have put in the law since 2010, duh...:yawn:
eameece
New member
No pointy-head; the fraud that is in question is stuff like Republicans going out and intimidating people, or calling people up to give them misinformation, or illegally taking qualified people off the voter rolls, etc.
I would be fine with having people who don't have an Id put their hand on a fingerprint scanner.
Don't be so sure.
Legal voters. The republicans have never been concerned with illegal voting, because it's so rare as to be neglible, even if it wasn't their people.
Turns out that almost all voting fraud is in fraudulently preventing qualified voters from voting. It's why the republican party is under court supervision to prevent them from doing more of it.
PureX
Well-known member
It's amazing how the republican supporters simply can't read those words and understand what they are saying. You could post this 100 times and still they will not comprehend it.
eameece
New member
Might be OK, but it is probably expensive.
eameece
New member
To be nominated by you for that is a great honor!
But the republicans will never go for it, because it won't do what they want it to do.
Daedalean's_Sun
New member
Brilliant. Why didn't anyone else think of that?
But the republicans will never go for it, because it won't do what they want it to do.
Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that people who don't have a birth certification or state-issued ID, probably aren't going to have fingerprints on file.
Wouldn't be difficult to set up places in every community, where fingerprints could be recorded.
Moot point, though; unless you charged a fee, it wouldn't discourage anyone from registering, and thereby, there would be no effective suppression of voting by qualified citizens.
So it's not going to happen.
I simply don't believe it.
It shouldn't be. Flat bed scanners are pretty cheap.