glorydaz
Well-known member
If you don't want to get banned, don't break the rules. :idunno:
Nah, if you don't want to get banned, put doser on ignore.
If you don't want to get banned, don't break the rules. :idunno:
We can argue over whether that helps or hinders. I was mostly wanting to look at and answer the question of whether or not it was a few grumblers or an empirical reality.
Answered in the affirmative. And so far, in April, there have been 14 reports and an equal number of mod actions, at least when I last looked.
Way ahead of ya.Nah, if you don't want to get banned, put doser on ignore.
You reprimanded me for squawking about an unjustified penalty that JR leveled against me, an embarrassing mistake on his part, but now you trot out a comment like this? I didn't break any rule, and I got slapped, and that's just 666, for the literal lack of a better word. I don't hold grudges, but I do impugn systemic problems. This is a kangaroo court here. I've been penalized twice in my years here wrongly, this one the most recent, and in neither case is there any due process. For someone who's legitimately innocent but with no way to defend myself, the taste in my mouth is sour, and I abode by your counsel in this matter, until now, because of this post. I never broke a single rule here, but I've been harassed by 'the police' twice, and that's 666, that there's no restitution for me. Mistakes are made, that's not the problem, the problem is no due process. It's a kangaroo court. Because I'd like to say that all you have to do is abide by the rules, but that literally does not work on TOL. And I volunteered to be a mod at the same time that JR did, but of course JR's both more active, and ... well, and a dispie. I know it's not required, but I also know that my theology bristles many users here, and dispies only bristle users who disagree with Dispensationalism.If you don't want to get banned, don't break the rules. :idunno:
I don't think it's good. I think it's 666. It's fine to have a 'law and order' mod, but when he gets it wrong, there's no way to make that right. That's 666, and we can do better. There's no way that a youngster like JR should wield this power without any way for us to defend ourselves against injustice.I guess some people would call that good. I'm not seeing it, however.
You reprimanded me for squawking about an unjustified penalty that JR leveled against me, an embarrassing mistake on his part, but now you trot out a comment like this? I didn't break any rule, and I got slapped, and that's just 666, for the literal lack of a better word. I don't hold grudges, but I do impugn systemic problems. This is a kangaroo court here. I've been penalized twice in my years here wrongly, this one the most recent, and in neither case is there any due process. For someone who's legitimately innocent but with no way to defend myself, the taste in my mouth is sour, and I abode by your counsel in this matter, until now, because of this post. I never broke a single rule here, but I've been harassed by 'the police' twice, and that's 666, that there's no restitution for me. Mistakes are made, that's not the problem, the problem is no due process. It's a kangaroo court. Because I'd like to say that all you have to do is abide by the rules, but that literally does not work on TOL. And I volunteered to be a mod at the same time that JR did, but of course JR's both more active, and ... well, and a dispie. I know it's not required, but I also know that my theology bristles many users here, and dispies only bristle users who disagree with Dispensationalism.
I don't think it's good. I think it's 666. It's fine to have a 'law and order' mod, but when he gets it wrong, there's no way to make that right. That's 666, and we can do better. There's no way that a youngster like JR should wield this power without any way for us to defend ourselves against injustice.
Why aren't you interested in moderating? You'd be great. I'd vote for you, if you ran.
I also said I'd start teasing you if you didn't stop whining.You reprimanded me for squawking about an unjustified penalty that JR leveled against me, an embarrassing mistake on his part, but now you trot out a comment like this? I didn't break any rule, and I got slapped, and that's just 666, for the literal lack of a better word. I don't hold grudges, but I do impugn systemic problems. This is a kangaroo court here. I've been penalized twice in my years here wrongly, this one the most recent, and in neither case is there any due process. For someone who's legitimately innocent but with no way to defend myself, the taste in my mouth is sour, and I abode by your counsel in this matter, until now, because of this post. I never broke a single rule here, but I've been harassed by 'the police' twice, and that's 666, that there's no restitution for me. Mistakes are made, that's not the problem, the problem is no due process. It's a kangaroo court. Because I'd like to say that all you have to do is abide by the rules, but that literally does not work on TOL. And I volunteered to be a mod at the same time that JR did, but of course JR's both more active, and ... well, and a dispie. I know it's not required, but I also know that my theology bristles many users here, and dispies only bristle users who disagree with Dispensationalism.
Stripe, or Town, or Artie.
Sure, but I think it's a little like holding in the NFL. If refs called every foul they could call by rule you'd spend more of the time watching the zebras than you would the game. That's a good way to lower viewers...and the boom.If you don't want to get banned, don't break the rules. :idunno:
He was more of a letter than spirit reporter. I suspect either he'll learn to lean into the spirit of the thing more or it's going to be progressively quieter around here.
It's one argument. But maybe the rules have always been meant to be coupled with an understanding that the guy rushing his wife to the emergency room isn't the same as the guy seeing what his new Mustang will do for fun. That is, we can allow for discretion and mitigation and tend to, in part because the alternative is trying to imagine and write in every possible exception would turn the whole thing into an unworkable mess.If implementation of the letter begets bad things, the rules are at fault, not the mod.
People are not justified in appealing to the "spirit" if they disrespect the "letter."
But this isn't.It's one argument.
We don't need to talk about the wording of rules from elsewhere; we have the ones under the spotlight.But maybe the rules have always been meant to be coupled with an understanding that the guy rushing his wife to the emergency room isn't the same as the guy seeing what his new Mustang will do for fun.
That is, we can allow for discretion and mitigation and tend to, in part because the alternative is trying to imagine and write in every possible exception would turn the whole thing into an unworkable mess.
I'm not someone who has run afoul of either spirit or letter.
I'm just noting that it's gotten problematic of late, historically so, and that the problem may well be found in the difference between what can be done and applying restraint on applying restraints.
Sure, but I think it's a little like holding in the NFL. If refs called every foul they could call by rule you'd spend more of the time watching the zebras than you would the game.
If implementation of the letter begets bad things, the rules are at fault, not the mod.
People are not justified in appealing to the "spirit" if they disrespect the "letter."
I'm not sure how to feel among such illustrious company.
Arthur Brain?! :AMR:I'm just thinking of who might be able to handle the power than comes with the position.
Knock it off.That would be true if the rules were fairly applied.
Provoking, for instance, is in the eye of the beholder.
Done by a fried, it's applauded.
Done by anyone responding to said friend, it's an infraction or a demand to "Knock it off".
Arthur Brain?! :AMR:
Knock it off.