ECT "Things that are different" included Gentiles

[john w]

If not unbelieving Jews, then who?



I answered, here is what I said:

"If you Darby Followers understood the difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant, when the NC was put in place, and when the OC came to an end, you guys wouldn't be so confused, and have multiple gospels."

Yes, punk-we assert more than one piece of good news in the book. Only devil children, like yourself, say otherwise.

Multiple "good news"'s, you idiot-yes. The punk does not even know what the term "gospel" means, and he is venturing into the ring, with us?

Tell us that Judas preached the 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV gospel, punk. Go ahead. Explain Luke 9:6 KJV, sweetie. Put aside your Preterist pamplets, J. Stuart Russell books, and Hank Hannegraaf tapes.

 

[tetelestai]

What gospel did the Twelve preach at Luke 9:6? At that time they didn't even know that the Lord Jesus was going to die (Lk.18:33-34).

Paul was a minister of the New Covenant. The NC didn't exist in Luke 9:6. Therefore, the 12 did not preach the NC, as they were still under the OC.

Again, if you understood the difference between the covenants, and didn't deny the NC, then you wouldn't be so confused, and have all your multiple gospel theories.

 

[john w]

If not unbelieving Jews, then who?



I answered, here is what I said:

"If you Darby Followers understood the difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant, when the NC was put in place, and when the OC came to an end, you guys wouldn't be so confused, and have multiple gospels."

there never was two different gospels.

Now, punk, tell us , with a straight face, that Peter was saved by believing the gospel of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, the DBR, when he tried to prevent the Master's death, and initially denied the resurrection. The DBR was hid from the 12, prior to its occurrence.


When was Peter saved, Craigie? Show us that he believed in....


Death
Burial
Resurrection....


..The foundation of the gospel of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV.


Go ahead, one spam/trick pony, one verse isolationist-lay it out for us. Explain, instead of spamming, from your AD 70-ism/Preterist articles.

Peter attempted to prevent the Master's death, the very death, that was the basis of his reconcilliation, initially denied the resurrection, and the DBR was hid from him, prior to its occurrence. Tell us, show, all of TOL, how he could have believed the 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV gospel, to be saved.


Go ahead, punk-you have the floor.

Answer, with scripture, punk, not sound bytes, and your Darby spam.

That is all the punk has.

 

[john w]

Paul was a minister of the New Covenant. The NC didn't exist in Luke 9:6. Therefore, the 12 did not preach the NC, as they were still under the OC.

Again, if you understood the difference between the covenants, and didn't deny the NC, then you wouldn't be so confused, and have all your multiple gospel theories.

Evasion-Answer, punk:

What gospel did the Twelve preach at Luke 9:6? At that time they didn't even know that the Lord Jesus was going to die (Lk.18:33-34).

 

[tetelestai]

Yes, punk-we assert more than one piece of good news in the book.

You fail to understand the difference between the covenants, and especially the 40 year overlap of the covenants from 30AD - 70AD.

(Heb 8:13) By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

Heb 8:13, by itself, refutes Dispensationalism.

 

[tetelestai]

What gospel did the Twelve preach at Luke 9:6? At that time they didn't even know that the Lord Jesus was going to die (Lk.18:33-34).

In Luke 9, the 12 were under the OC. They proclaimed the good news that Jesus was the Christ.

 

[john w]

If not unbelieving Jews, then who?



I answered, here is what I said:

"If you Darby Followers understood the difference between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant, when the NC was put in place, and when the OC came to an end, you guys wouldn't be so confused, and have multiple gospels."

And I still await your answer as to what was said when the Twelve preached a gospel at Luke 9:6.

Answer, Craigie.

 

[john w]

In Luke 9, the 12 were under the OC. They proclaimed the good news that Jesus was the Christ.

So, you admit that the 12, including Judas, did not preach the DBR, the foundation of the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, prior to its occurrence,, as it was hid from them, and yet, they were preaching the gospel/good news of the kingdom for almost 3 years.

Yes, or no?

 

[john w]

In Luke 9, the 12 were under the OC. They proclaimed the good news that Jesus was the Christ.

So, they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom, for 3 years, but not the good news/gospel, that had, as its foundation....

Death
Burial
Resurrection

True?

 

[john w]

You fail to understand the difference between the covenants, and especially the 40 year overlap of the covenants from 30AD - 70AD.

(Heb 8:13) By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

Heb 8:13, by itself, refutes Dispensationalism.

Irrelevant-evasion, snake. You "argued:"

there never was two different gospels.

What gospel did the Twelve preach at Luke 9:6? At that time they didn't even know that the Lord Jesus was going to die (Lk.18:33-34).

You say: They proclaimed the good news that Jesus was the Christ.

Thus, the gospel/good news the 12 preached, including Judas, had NADA to do with the DBR, you little Preterist fraud, blowhard, moron, and thus your satanic "one piece of good news," "there never was two different gospels," is refuted-you made it up, to support your invented AD 70-ism farce, Prerterism joke.

You equate the New Covenant with the 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV gospel. You made that up. No scripture asserts that, your made up "Gospel of The New Covenant."

 

[Jerry Shugart]

If not unbelieving Jews, then who?

If the nation of Israel would have repented then those believing Jews would have kept the earthly kingdom in view.

In Luke 9, the 12 were under the OC. They proclaimed the good news that Jesus was the Christ.

So you admit that the gospel preached at Luke 9:6 was not the same gospel Paul spoke of at 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

But you said that there was only one gospel.

 

[tetelestai]

So, you admit that the 12, including Judas, did not preach the DBR, the foundation of the good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, prior to its occurrence,, as it was hid from them, and yet, they were preaching the gospel/good news of the kingdom for almost 3 years.

The 12 did not preach the NC before the cross (that would have been impossible).

Again, if you Darby Followers understood the difference between the covenants, you guys wouldn't be so confused, and have all kinds of multiple gospel theories, with all kinds of different groups of people.

 

[john w]

Paul was a minister of the New Covenant. The NC didn't exist in Luke 9:6. Therefore, the 12 did not preach the NC, as they were still under the OC.

Again, if you understood the difference between the covenants, and didn't deny the NC, then you wouldn't be so confused, and have all your multiple gospel theories.

Who told the 12 to be under the OC?

 

[tetelestai]

Irrelevant-evasion, snake. You "argued:"


What gospel did the Twelve preach at Luke 9:6? At that time they didn't even know that the Lord Jesus was going to die (Lk.18:33-34).

You say: They proclaimed the good news that Jesus was the Christ.

Thus, the gospel/good news the 12 preached, including Judas, had NADA to do with the DBR, you little Preterist fraud, blowhard, moron, and thus your satanic "one piece of good news," "there never was two different gospels," is refuted-you made it up, to support your invented AD 70-ism farce, Prerterism joke.

You equate the New Covenant with the 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV gospel. You made that up. No scripture asserts that, your made up "Gospel of The New Covenant."

The problem with you Darby Followers is that you guys claim Peter didn't preach the NC after the cross.

 

[tetelestai]

Who told the 12 to be under the OC?

They were born under the OC.

The NC didn't begin until the cross.

 

[john w]

The 12 did not preach the NC before the cross (that would have been impossible).

Caught, in a contradiction/lie. He admits the 12 did not preach the gospel of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, but did preach the gospel of the kingdom,but charges.................

Again, if you Darby Followers understood the difference between the covenants, you guys wouldn't be so confused, and have all kinds of multiple gospel theories, with all kinds of different groups of people.

=no multiple gospels, and the gospel of the kingdom is not the gospel of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, but no more than 1 piece of good news in the bible...no multiple gospels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You were caught-all of TOL sees it. Go ahead punk, and spam your "confused Darby followers" in response. I just picked you apart, and all of TOL sees it.

 

[john w]

The problem with you Darby Followers is that you guys claim Peter didn't preach the NC after the cross.

I've reduced the punk to a whimper, and his Darby spam.

Irrelevant-evasion, snake. You "argued:"

there never was two different gospels.

What gospel did the Twelve preach at Luke 9:6? At that time they didn't even know that the Lord Jesus was going to die (Lk.18:33-34).

You say: They proclaimed the good news that Jesus was the Christ.

Thus, the gospel/good news the 12 preached, including Judas, had NADA to do with the DBR, you little Preterist fraud, blowhard, moron, and thus your satanic "one piece of good news," "there never was two different gospels," is refuted-you made it up, to support your invented AD 70-ism farce, Prerterism joke.

You equate the New Covenant with the 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV gospel. You made that up. No scripture asserts that, your made up "Gospel of The New Covenant."

 

[john w]

They were born under the OC.

The NC didn't begin until the cross.

I did not ask that. I asked:

Who told the 12 to be under the OC?


You argued that. Names. Who told them to adhere to the OC? Who taught them that?

 

[john w]

They were born under the OC.

The NC didn't begin until the cross.

When did the OC end? Be careful, clown.

 

[tetelestai]

If the nation of Israel would have repented then those believing Jews would have kept the earthly kingdom in view.

Impossible:

(Matt 24:2) “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”

According to you, if Israel would have repented, then what Jesus said above wouldn't have happened.

Notice Jesus says "Truly"

So you admit that the gospel preached at Luke 9:6 was not the same gospel Paul spoke of at 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

Again, you're trying to compare with what took place under two different covenants.

Gospel means "good news". The good news to Peter under the OC was that Jesus was the Christ. The 'good news" what Paul preached in the NC was much different.

In no way does that even suggest that the people who believed in Christ under the OC are not in the same body as those who have faith in Christ Jesus under the NC.

But you said that there was only one gospel.

In the NC there is one gospel.

Yet, you MADists try to claim that after the cross, in the NC, that certain people didn't, or couldn't, be in the same body as others.

That's just plain heresy.