CherubRam
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Apparently parables are to difficult for some people to negotiate.
There is no Hell
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Apparently parables are to difficult for some people to negotiate.
Right! The lake of fire is GOD's junkyard. Stuff will still be there, but has ceased to function or has never functioned as it was originally intended.
dodge
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And apparently many cannot tell the difference between a parable and a clear teaching from Jesus and the prophets such as yourself.
CherubRam
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The origin of Hell is from the Pagan religion, it is not a teaching in Judaism or Christianity. The Pagan Catholics introduced the word "Hell" into scriptures.
Jesus speaks of hell in the rich man and Lazarus. It is not a parable but reality.
That's HADES, not Hell. The parable of the rich man and Lazarus has nothing to do with the final judgment of the wicked. Notice that the rich man's brothers are still alive while the rich man is in Hades. This indicates that this parable is speaking of a time BEFORE the final judgment. If it were talking about the final judgement, the rich man's brothers would be there too, wouldn't they.
Besides, the Bible specifically states that the wages of sin is DEATH, not eternal conscious torture in hell.
Thanks, I agree. And of course the eternal punishment is death, just as the Bible says.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord".
This means that the eternal punishment cannot possibly be eternal torture in hell, since the wicked would have to have eternal life in order to be conscious of eternal torture. The Bible says that they will pay the wages of sin, which is death. The Bible NEVER says that the wicked will receive eternal life.
dodge
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FYI, ever lasting punishment NEVER ends....Sorry you cannot receive the truth !
How long do you believe EVER LASTING is ?
Forever. Just how is being destroyed and remaining destroyed for all eternity NOT an eternal punishment?
How long does a person have to remain destroyed before you will admit that they have been destroyed for all eternity? Face it the verse doesn't prove, or even state that the wicked will be tortured alive forever.
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Destroy does NOT mean "cease to exist".
CherubRam
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This again
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Most people in Hell right now didn't think it existed either- the rest didn't think they'd be going to itlain:
The Serpent's doctrine is eternal life in Hell.
Genesis 2:17
...but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."
Genesis 3:4
"You will not surely die," the serpent said to the woman.
Destroy does not mean "send to hell to be tortured alive forever while you are dead".
The Bible specifically says that the wicked will perish and WILL BE NO MORE. So you are precisely WRONG that "Destroy does not mean cease to exist". Try again, because you do not know what you are talking about.
Hell is a myth
Arthur Brain
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This again
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Most people in Hell right now didn't think it existed either- the rest didn't think they'd be going to it
Well if it's the grave then everyone 'goes' to it. Otherwise it's a myriad takes on suffering of some sort and a general lack of compassion, empathy or humanity from the hardcore lot who think other people besides themselves are destined to it...
And what would the lake of fire be?
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CherubRam
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1. Jude, a servant of Yahshua the Messiah, and brother of James, and to them that are sanctified by Yahwah the Father, also called and saved by Yahshua the Messiah.
2. May mercy, peace, and devotion, be multiplied to you.
3. Loved, I was eager to write to you about the salvation we share, it was necessary for me to write to you, and encourage you to earnestly contend for the faith that was given to the saints.
4. Because you are unaware that certain men have sneaked in, who are of a ancient order to their condemnation, these ungodly men turn the grace of our God into immorality, and deny that the only God is Yahwah, or that our lord Yahshua is the Messiah.[/FONT]
1. Jude, a servant of Yahshua the Messiah, and brother of James, and to them that are sanctified by Yahwah the Father, also called and saved by Yahshua the Messiah.
2. May mercy, peace, and devotion, be multiplied to you.
3. Loved, I was eager to write to you about the salvation we share, it was necessary for me to write to you, and encourage you to earnestly contend for the faith that was given to the saints.
4. Because you are unaware that certain men have sneaked in, who are of a ancient order to their condemnation, these ungodly men turn the grace of our God into immorality, and deny that the only God is Yahwah, or that our lord Yahshua is the Messiah.[/FONT]
Why is there a differentiation between Hell and Hades?