musterion
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No, I want to hear the other leftists here say it.
There Are No Rules In War?
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No, I want to hear the other leftists here say it.
I don't believe anyone has dismissed the word torture, what is being argued is whether waterboarding is torture by definition. Most folks, 59% of them say no.
aikey's just parroting the leftist spin
he doesn't really care about the facts behind it, he's only interested in seeing if it can get traction
predictable, really :idunno:
"assaults upon personal dignity" ??? :freak:
my personal dignity would be offended if I was detained, so if i'm captured the bad guys hafta let me go
and my personal dignity would be offended if i didn't get a bag of fritos and a can of pepsi with every meal
Give us an example of how you would go about interrogating a mass murdering terrorist (who is not part of any standing army) without making him feel uncomfortable (which is torture in the minds of liberals).
gcthomas
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The word torture seems to mean different things to different people, but whatever you call it waterboarding is forbidden under American and international law.
musterion
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You are the equivalent of an armchair Brit in the 1700s who insists the infantry square is not only militarily but morally superior, even in the face of Colonials going guerrilla. The difference is, they would do it out of a stupidly antiquated sense of honor. You do it because you want U.S. soldiers handicapped against fighters who YOU KNOW have neither rules, morals nor honor.
"assaults upon personal dignity" ??? :freak:
my personal dignity would be offended if I was detained, so if i'm captured the bad guys hafta let me go
and my personal dignity would be offended if i didn't get a bag of fritos and a can of pepsi with every meal
Good question, being GC believes this list to be a comprehensive one than maybe he can define "assaults upon personal dignity" for us. Seems like a rather broad brush term.
gcthomas
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Neither of us are interrogation experts, so I can't answer you and you are not fit to judge my answer either.
However, the CIA interrogation experts seemed to have concluded that their methods were more effective than the torturing of prisoners that happened when they were overruled.
gcthomas
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Your dignity would certainly be offended if they stuffed your Pepsi and fritos up your backside.
Please show me where? I have not seen any documentation to that effect yet, and no it was not forbidden under American law in fact it was sanctioned & authorized by American lawmakers (republican & democrat) for use. It has only now been demonized as unlawful by Obama & the same left wing ideologues that authorized it 10 years ago. Please show me your proof that waterboarding is illegal under international law though.
you've been watching gay porn on the interwebs again, haven't you?
musterion
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Well, he is British and an atheist.
Yet one of us is abhorred at the thought of professional interrogators not being nice to mass murdering muzzies and the other one of us knows that they have a very important job to do.
Being that their interrogation techniques have resulted in getting vital information about an international terrorist network and because of that, both of our countries have little to no terrorist attacks, I'm ok with CIA interrogators not being nice to mass murderers.
gcthomas
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You have that the wrong way round. It wasn't the professional interrogators that were doing the torture.
You have that the wrong way round. The CIA's experts objected to the waterboarding and other torture being brought in by people with no expertise in interrogation. Their interrogation techniques were only used after the waterboarding was stopped and proper, effective techniques were reinstated.
You seem to like the torture for its own sake, regardless of whether it was effective or not. The CIA experts said 'not'.
Waterboarding is an effective way of extracting information from terrorists. I know it really bothers you liberals when mass murderers are made to feel uncomfortable gc, I do hope that you don't lose any more sleep over it.
Let me rephrase that for you:
CIA officials that were CYA'ing in front of a Congressional hearing said that waterboarding...
There, that's better.
Ok, now let's get to the gist of it:
What isn't considered torture in the la la land world of liberals?
Good Question...maybe a pillow fight.:banana:
Here is what that pervert and his demonic witch companions on TOL want.
You vile disgusting pervert. You have nothing to say about islam. But you rail on about waterboarding. Go to hell. And take that demon pig annabendetti, rusha, thebarbarian and others with you.
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You vile disgusting pervert. You have nothing to say about islam. But you rail on about waterboarding. Go to hell. And take that demon pig annabendetti, rusha, thebarbarian and others with you.