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ex nihilo

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Holla. My name's David (or Dave). I'm a dude. Haha, yeah.

So I just searched up online theology and this site popped up. I must say some of the topics caught my eye real fast. This looks like a lotta fun.

Yep, hope to make a few friends and a whole lot of enemies. I intend to stick to the truth, so excuse my sloppiness and inadequacy to defend it to any serious degree, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

So hey!
 

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Holla. My name's David (or Dave). I'm a dude. Haha, yeah.
Thanks for clearing that up, Mary. :D

So I just searched up online theology and this site popped up. I must say some of the topics caught my eye real fast. This looks like a lotta fun.
It can be. I've ran into it about the same way three years ago or so and was hooked in short order. I like everything from the layout to the people you meet. I hope you find it half as enjoyable...which seems stingy when you think about it. :think:

Yep, hope to make a few friends and a whole lot of enemies.
Either are easy to come by, though I can't imagine why the latter would appeal to you. Maybe an age thing. I'm old enough now that mornings are like a game of pain Clue (was it in the kitchen with the ladder or in the yard with the lawnmower?) so I'm less interested in fighting these days than debating, less interested in debating than discussing, and less interested in discussing than in a good nap. Sometimes in the midst of any of those. :idunno:

I intend to stick to the truth, so excuse my sloppiness and inadequacy to defend it to any serious degree, but I wouldn't have it any other way.
We all do what we can to the extent that we can and if that isn't good enough for someone it's really their problem, isn't it.

Hey yourself. And welcome aboard. :e4e:
 

zippy2006

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Holla. My name's David (or Dave). I'm a dude. Haha, yeah.

So I just searched up online theology and this site popped up. I must say some of the topics caught my eye real fast. This looks like a lotta fun.

Yep, hope to make a few friends and a whole lot of enemies. I intend to stick to the truth, so excuse my sloppiness and inadequacy to defend it to any serious degree, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

So hey!

Good to see ya here :wave2:
 

Paulos

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Yep, hope to make a few friends and a whole lot of enemies. I intend to stick to the truth...

A lot of people on this forum seem to think like that, but are you sure that's the proper attitude? The reason I ask is because it seems to me that knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. And I've heard it said that if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. So what is the point of arguing?

My advice would be to avoid foolish disputes, contentions, and strivings over words; for they are unprofitable and useless. Disputes and arguments over words produce envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings. Perhaps we should refuse to engage in foolish and ignorant speculations, because they produce quarrels.

By contrast, love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil.

Love is greater than both knowledge and faith, for though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. Indeed, I would suggest that love is greater than all things.

Welcome to the forum.
 
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Stripe

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"online theology" and TheologyOnLine popped up? :think:

Whoda thunk it. :idunno:

Welcome anyway. :D
 

Krsto

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My advice would be to avoid foolish disputes, contentions, and strivings over words; for they are unprofitable and useless. Disputes and arguments over words produce envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings. Perhaps we should refuse to engage in foolish and ignorant speculations, because they produce quarrels.

Yeah, that pretty well sums up the fruit of the first 4 great church councils starting with Nicea in 325 AD. Now we are stuck trying to deal with the mess they left us. 95% of theology is just dealing with all the wrong doctrines introduced into the pure stream of truth we received from Jesus and his apostles.

Some people actually get paid to do this . . .

Anyway, welcome aboard Dave, and watch your step!
 

ex nihilo

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A lot of people on this forum seem to think like that, but are you sure that's the proper attitude? The reason I ask is because it seems to me that knowledge puffs up, but love edifies. And I've heard it said that if anyone thinks that he knows anything, he knows nothing yet as he ought to know. So what is the point of arguing?

My advice would be to avoid foolish disputes, contentions, and strivings over words; for they are unprofitable and useless. Disputes and arguments over words produce envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings. Perhaps we should refuse to engage in foolish and ignorant speculations, because they produce quarrels.

By contrast, love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil.

Love is greater than both knowledge and faith, for though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. Indeed, I would suggest that love is greater than all things.

Welcome to the forum.

Haha, yeah I wouldn't exactly disagree with you... I mean if I did, I'd be blatantly disregarding 1 Cor 13 then wouldn't I? :p

yep, love does not rejoice in wrongdoing. Though I do all things in love, to love is to understand that there is no joy in seeing someone doing evil.

when i mean tell the truth, i meant it in such a way as to present the Gospel and biblical truth without fear of rejection. that's the most loving thing to do, don't you suppose :p?

As for the rest of you guys, thanks for the warm welcome haha :cool:
 

Paulos

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Yeah, that pretty well sums up the fruit of the first 4 great church councils starting with Nicea in 325 AD. Now we are stuck trying to deal with the mess they left us. 95% of theology is just dealing with all the wrong doctrines introduced into the pure stream of truth we received from Jesus and his apostles.

Some people actually get paid to do this . . .

Anyway, welcome aboard Dave, and watch your step!

If I have spoken falsely, bare witness to the falsehood. But if I have spoken truthfully, why then do you not accept it?
 

Paulos

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Haha, yeah I wouldn't exactly disagree with you... I mean if I did, I'd be blatantly disregarding 1 Cor 13 then wouldn't I? :p

Good catch! Shows you know scripture. In fact, about 80% of my post was quotations from the New Testament. Aside from 1 Cor 13, I also quoted from 1 Corinthians 8:1-2, 2 Timothy 2:23, Titus 3:9, and 1 Timothy 6:4.

Once again, welcome to the forum!
 
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Krsto

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If I have spoken falsely, bare witness to the falsehood. But if I have spoken truthfully, why then do you not accept it?

I wasn't speaking of you in particular, just making broad sweeping generalizations about the state of biblical theology in general. But if you ever speak falsely :shocked: I'll be sure to let you know.
 
You might want to consider something about ‘forums’?
Do you think that God doesn’t notice believers are just using the Internet as an excuse to ‘avoid’ Having To Physically Go Into All The World and do what Jesus commands [Mark 16:15-18]? Ergo, most believers aren’t joining forums to serve God or experience fellowship in Christ but rather they just want to boast and start arguments and insult everyone who doesn’t agree with their limited understanding of “God” or even worse and perhaps more likely; they were tempted into a forum by the devil to distract them From God?

i.e. Satan doesn’t want Christians going out In Person into the real world and spreading the gospel and edifying and healing and baptizing etc. and the Internet provides the ideal diversion to excuse believers from actually talking with real people In Person, knocking on people’s doors In Person and laying hands on people etc.? Thus, “forums” created to entice idle lazy disobedient believers to cower behind Alias usernames spewing biblical quotes from ignorance instead of declaring their Real names and going into the Real world and serving God as they Really should be doing? So the devil is quite happy to lure naïve believers into cyberspace, away from the real world and thus keeping them from Doing Those Things in service to God “in person”? And as long as people are distracted on the Internet arguing and bible-bashing each other, the devil doesn’t have to lift a finger to prevent “those believers” from obeying Mark 16:15-18 because they are already neatly trapped in the “Internet” and they may never learn how to truly Walk in Christ? In other words, their faith is so weak that they couldn’t preach anything to anyone In Person even if they wanted to and they probably never even spoke one prayer to God asking him to bless them with the ‘power’ to go out and interact with people Face-to-Face and obey what Mark 16:15-18 commands and in the end, that neglect could very well cost them their souls?

Some of these forums may also have been created by believers who do not have a ‘leadership role’ in their own physical church or maybe don’t belong to any church? So the “Internet” affords them the opportunity to ‘practice at’ being a cyber-pastor over their own flock of Anonymous cyber-lambs/wolves but they don’t have to face the inevitability of being questioned about what they’re doing and believing and saying because when the going gets tough, they simply remove the topics they don’t like and/or ban the people they cannot face. Likewise, many of the forum members are probably in the same boat and without the ‘power’ to do what Mark 16:15-18 says but a forum also enables ‘them’ to pretend they are wise church elders so confidently quoting scripture while arguing uncontrollably with anonymous strangers who might very well be wolves, for all They know or care to find out? ;)

Too scary for you to believe that might be what’s happening? Are you offended that your forum might not be serving any divine purpose whatsoever and that You might actually have to re-think some things about your faith and biblical interpretation? Shocked that You might need some spiritual correcting or you may actually be lost again? Well I hope you are shocked or at least concerned because that might mean you actually Do Care To Know if you’re believing and doing the right thing in Jesus’ name and that you do want to Listen and Learn and grow in Christ like the rest of us foolish wretches? And maybe you will now pray for God to show you what your true good works might be and bless you to properly serve his will, not Yours? Rather than anonymously prancing around in a forum trying to impress someone with your biblical knowledge because you’re afraid and powerless to face the real world in His name? Or like believers who segregate themselves in forums by denomination, as if to advertise that they might somehow be better Christians than non-denominational followers or that Adventists might somehow be better Christians than Protestants or Catholics might somehow be better Christians than Anglicans or Christadelphians might somehow be better Christians than Lutherans or Baptists might somehow be better Christians than Evangelicals etc. etc. etc.? But there it is! We now have thousands of believers that have migrated to the Internet wagging their uncontrollable tongues (James 3:8) in the vacuum of cyberspace and pretending to be warriors for God but in reality, they are merely deluding themselves? And for all You know, the devil’s minions also created the forum You are babbling in and the yolk is on you? ;) Don’t believe it? If you can’t, then you are ignorant because I’ve witnessed so-called Christian forums where the moderators are actually atheist or worse perhaps and so the joke was indeed on “those believers who participated”.

But what do I know? Anyway, kudos to those responsible for this forum if this topic actually survived their screening process thus allowing members to read it and God to do the moderating? Notwithstanding, I do question the advent of forums and the motives of those who create them since, if for no other reason, that the ‘nature’ of a forum does not promote love and patience but rather conflict, hatred and impatience. So if anyone thinks I’m here looking for forum buddies, friends or pals, let me be perfectly clear. God willing, I’m compelled to be here mainly to WARN those believers who may have been lured here by the evil one and/or inadvertently; about the ‘danger’ of forums and the Internet! Period.

And whether or not the creators of these forums had good intentions, I have witnessed far too much evil in each and every forum I participated in. Without exception, Each and Every so-called Christian forum proved to be little more than a chaotic hostile vehicle for judgmental, hateful, ignorant administrators and moderators trying to play God instead of ‘facing God’s truth’ in obedience to Christ and most members responded in kind because most people weren’t there to blamelessly, harmlessly debate Christianity and perhaps learn something and grow in Him. Quite the contrary, they were there to fight and argue their “limited understanding of God” at any cost and when the Mods/Admins couldn’t support their opinions and/or felt threatened to perhaps being exposed as false brethren, they just removed the topics and banned anyone who didn’t kneel to their rhetoric and man-made rules. Which means they aren’t ‘forums’ in the first place because people weren’t allowed to freely and honestly debate or discuss anything. ;)

So I guess we’ll soon find out if this forum operates similarly and if believers here put God’s Laws first instead of man-contrived-forum-rules? As well, I won’t be posting any further comments nor responding publically to anyone’s threads in this forum either because I’m not here to debate anything with anyone especially in an almost certain ungodly atmosphere like ‘this’ and so as to then perhaps be accused of lending credence to any otherwise legitimate Internet platforms let alone “so-called Christian forums”? I’ve already learned my lesson God willing, about the evil of the “Internet” and those human resources who would perpetrate evil there. Indeed, I’m genuinely repulsed now just ‘joining’ any of these forums in order to “warn” those whom God may wish to be warned? I may not even have any divine purpose for being on the Internet myself but in the event that just one person is properly corrected or saved by doing so, then it was absolutely worth the effort. Hallelujah!

Paul
 

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You might want to consider something about ‘forums’?
Do you think that God doesn’t notice believers are just using the Internet as an excuse to ‘avoid’ Having To Physically Go Into All The World and do what Jesus commands [Mark 16:15-18]? Ergo, most believers aren’t joining forums to serve God or experience fellowship in Christ but rather they just want to boast and start arguments and insult everyone who doesn’t agree with their limited understanding of “God” or even worse and perhaps more likely; they were tempted into a forum by the devil to distract them From God?

i.e. Satan doesn’t want Christians going out In Person into the real world and spreading the gospel and edifying and healing and baptizing etc. and the Internet provides the ideal diversion to excuse believers from actually talking with real people In Person, knocking on people’s doors In Person and laying hands on people etc.? Thus, “forums” created to entice idle lazy disobedient believers to cower behind Alias usernames spewing biblical quotes from ignorance instead of declaring their Real names and going into the Real world and serving God as they Really should be doing? So the devil is quite happy to lure naïve believers into cyberspace, away from the real world and thus keeping them from Doing Those Things in service to God “in person”? And as long as people are distracted on the Internet arguing and bible-bashing each other, the devil doesn’t have to lift a finger to prevent “those believers” from obeying Mark 16:15-18 because they are already neatly trapped in the “Internet” and they may never learn how to truly Walk in Christ? In other words, their faith is so weak that they couldn’t preach anything to anyone In Person even if they wanted to and they probably never even spoke one prayer to God asking him to bless them with the ‘power’ to go out and interact with people Face-to-Face and obey what Mark 16:15-18 commands and in the end, that neglect could very well cost them their souls?

Some of these forums may also have been created by believers who do not have a ‘leadership role’ in their own physical church or maybe don’t belong to any church? So the “Internet” affords them the opportunity to ‘practice at’ being a cyber-pastor over their own flock of Anonymous cyber-lambs/wolves but they don’t have to face the inevitability of being questioned about what they’re doing and believing and saying because when the going gets tough, they simply remove the topics they don’t like and/or ban the people they cannot face. Likewise, many of the forum members are probably in the same boat and without the ‘power’ to do what Mark 16:15-18 says but a forum also enables ‘them’ to pretend they are wise church elders so confidently quoting scripture while arguing uncontrollably with anonymous strangers who might very well be wolves, for all They know or care to find out? ;)

Too scary for you to believe that might be what’s happening? Are you offended that your forum might not be serving any divine purpose whatsoever and that You might actually have to re-think some things about your faith and biblical interpretation? Shocked that You might need some spiritual correcting or you may actually be lost again? Well I hope you are shocked or at least concerned because that might mean you actually Do Care To Know if you’re believing and doing the right thing in Jesus’ name and that you do want to Listen and Learn and grow in Christ like the rest of us foolish wretches? And maybe you will now pray for God to show you what your true good works might be and bless you to properly serve his will, not Yours? Rather than anonymously prancing around in a forum trying to impress someone with your biblical knowledge because you’re afraid and powerless to face the real world in His name? Or like believers who segregate themselves in forums by denomination, as if to advertise that they might somehow be better Christians than non-denominational followers or that Adventists might somehow be better Christians than Protestants or Catholics might somehow be better Christians than Anglicans or Christadelphians might somehow be better Christians than Lutherans or Baptists might somehow be better Christians than Evangelicals etc. etc. etc.? But there it is! We now have thousands of believers that have migrated to the Internet wagging their uncontrollable tongues (James 3:8) in the vacuum of cyberspace and pretending to be warriors for God but in reality, they are merely deluding themselves? And for all You know, the devil’s minions also created the forum You are babbling in and the yolk is on you? ;) Don’t believe it? If you can’t, then you are ignorant because I’ve witnessed so-called Christian forums where the moderators are actually atheist or worse perhaps and so the joke was indeed on “those believers who participated”.

But what do I know? Anyway, kudos to those responsible for this forum if this topic actually survived their screening process thus allowing members to read it and God to do the moderating? Notwithstanding, I do question the advent of forums and the motives of those who create them since, if for no other reason, that the ‘nature’ of a forum does not promote love and patience but rather conflict, hatred and impatience. So if anyone thinks I’m here looking for forum buddies, friends or pals, let me be perfectly clear. God willing, I’m compelled to be here mainly to WARN those believers who may have been lured here by the evil one and/or inadvertently; about the ‘danger’ of forums and the Internet! Period.

And whether or not the creators of these forums had good intentions, I have witnessed far too much evil in each and every forum I participated in. Without exception, Each and Every so-called Christian forum proved to be little more than a chaotic hostile vehicle for judgmental, hateful, ignorant administrators and moderators trying to play God instead of ‘facing God’s truth’ in obedience to Christ and most members responded in kind because most people weren’t there to blamelessly, harmlessly debate Christianity and perhaps learn something and grow in Him. Quite the contrary, they were there to fight and argue their “limited understanding of God” at any cost and when the Mods/Admins couldn’t support their opinions and/or felt threatened to perhaps being exposed as false brethren, they just removed the topics and banned anyone who didn’t kneel to their rhetoric and man-made rules. Which means they aren’t ‘forums’ in the first place because people weren’t allowed to freely and honestly debate or discuss anything. ;)

So I guess we’ll soon find out if this forum operates similarly and if believers here put God’s Laws first instead of man-contrived-forum-rules? As well, I won’t be posting any further comments nor responding publically to anyone’s threads in this forum either because I’m not here to debate anything with anyone especially in an almost certain ungodly atmosphere like ‘this’ and so as to then perhaps be accused of lending credence to any otherwise legitimate Internet platforms let alone “so-called Christian forums”? I’ve already learned my lesson God willing, about the evil of the “Internet” and those human resources who would perpetrate evil there. Indeed, I’m genuinely repulsed now just ‘joining’ any of these forums in order to “warn” those whom God may wish to be warned? I may not even have any divine purpose for being on the Internet myself but in the event that just one person is properly corrected or saved by doing so, then it was absolutely worth the effort. Hallelujah!

Paul
You have posted this on at least two threads. Cut and paste jobs will win you an infraction pretty quick. TOL is for dialog not cut and paste jobs. Just a heads up!
 

Joni

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Thanks, cabinet maker. I was going to mention that. Also, I just noticed you are a carpenter? Just like Jesus! Did he make cabinets?
 

Stripe

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So .. Ex Nihilo and Barbie hasn't come in to tell him he is a myth yet. Curious. :think:
 
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