The Wall WILL Be Built

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Another piece of the puzzle:

US-Mexico border: Pentagon to deploy an extra 2,000 troops

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47111913
The US is to send an additional 2,000 troops to its border with Mexico, the Pentagon has announced.
It will bring the total number of troops stationed on the southern border to about 4,300.



So, what is coming up:

  • The State of the Union speech which will provide Trump with the best platform to make his case, and which historically provides a small bump in the polls
  • The new caravan will reach the border in three or four days
  • 2,000 more troops sent to the border, for a total of 4,300
  • Government shutdown because of Nancy and Crying Chuck reneging on their promise to negotiate

Oh yes: That last bullet point will trigger the crisis declaration.
 

The Barbarian

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Two-thirds of Americans in a new poll said President Trump should not declare a national emergency to secure funding for his desired wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

The CBS News poll found that 66 percent of respondents are against Trump declaring a national emergency to build the wall, while 34 percent support that measure. The president said last Friday there's a "good chance" he will issue an emergency declaration for the wall.

The CBS poll found that most Republicans support Trump declaring an emergency. Party members surveyed were split 50-50 on whether Trump should force another government shutdown over wall funding, or whether he should keep the government open to negotiate.

Seventy-three percent of those polled said that Trump should continue to negotiate while keeping the government open, and 75 percent said they want congressional Democrats to do the same.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...p-declaring-national-emergency-to-fund-border
 

The Barbarian

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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Sixty percent of Americans oppose major new construction of walls along the U.S.-Mexico border -- the goal behind President Donald Trump's budget showdown with Democratic leaders that led to a record 35-day partial shutdown of the federal government.

The shutdown, which ended Jan. 25, and the political battles that preceded it over the past several months have had little apparent effect on public opinion about a wall. Fifty-seven percent opposed major new construction of walls seven months ago, a statistically insignificant three-percentage-point difference from the current number.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/246455/solid-majority-opposes-new-construction-border-wall.aspx
 

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[*]Government shutdown because of Nancy and Crying Chuck reneging on their promise to negotiate
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Oh yes: That last bullet point will trigger the crisis declaration.


They are willing to negotiate on border security. But they've repeatedly pointed out that there just aren't the votes for the wall in Congress. With the American people now opposed to the wall by a two-thirds majority, that isn't going to change.

Trump is in a tough spot. With the Mueller probe going as it is, he really needs to win another four years. And his base is just as demanding that the wall be built as most Americans are opposed to it.

He's in a box of his own making.
 

jamesdyson

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ot Also, When Trump was elected he probably did not start immediately thinking about losing the House in two years and about rushing to get everything done in two years just in case. It got put off while bigger fish were being fried, and Ryan never inserted it into the budget.

Trump is incapable of thinking; trump is a reactionist, like a fly on the wall and we all know what to do if you find a fly on your wall.
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ok doser

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A wall doesn't say "Stay Out!" or "Go Away!"

A wall says "Use The Door"


I wonder if those people who are irrationally opposed to Trump's wall understand that there will be doors :think:
 

jamesdyson

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A wall doesn't say "Stay Out!" or "Go Away!"

A wall says "Use The Door"

I wonder if those people who are irrationally opposed to Trump's wall understand that there will be doors :think:

I agree but there is a better way to articulate the issue.
Claiming these people are racists, rapists, murderers is a bold face lie that distorts instead of clearing up this issue.
at least in my point of view of things
 

jgarden

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The Wall WILL Be Built

Obviously the Republicans in the House and Senate never wanted "THE WALL" - otherwise the legislation would have been enacted in the first 2 years when they had majorities in the House and Senate!

The Democrats are not responsible for funding a Trump WALL especially an election promise that assured the American electorate that it would be financed by the Mexicans - by never brokered a prior agreement before making that commitment means this Presidents "owns" the problem!

The Congressional Republicans are also opposed to The Donald" arbitrarily declaring a "national emergency" - even if the President was able to surmount the constitutional challenges, it would set a precedent that would allow the Democrats in the future to bypass Congress when implementing their own priorities!
 

jamesdyson

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not so

certainly not all of them are, but even one is too many to tolerate

one (1) in a thousand (1,000) perhaps but we have our own murderers and rapists and thieves right here in the USA who are white for a better word. With that in mind shouldn't Mexico bar Americans from entering or Europe banning our entry as well--?

what goes around comes around

and the number is demonstrably much greater than one[/QUOTE]
 

Catholic Crusader

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Trump is incapable of thinking; trump is a reactionist, like a fly on the wall and we all know what to do if you find a fly on your wall.
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Ignorant posts like that are not worth the space they're taking up on the internet, and that ain't much
 
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ok doser

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one (1) in a thousand (1,000) perhaps

it's impossible to say, because most crime happens within group, within community, which means that most crime committed by illegal immigrants is perpetrated against members of that community - and they don't report crime to the police for reasons that should be obvious


but we have our own murderers and rapists and thieves right here in the USA who are white for a better word.

yep, a lot of them are white Americans

a lot more are black Americans and Hispanic Americans

With that in mind shouldn't Mexico bar Americans from entering

they do


or Europe banning our entry as well--?

they do as well
 

The Barbarian

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Let's see...

Americans don't want a wall by a huge margin.
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Sixty percent of Americans oppose major new construction of walls along the U.S.-Mexico border -- the goal behind President Donald Trump's budget showdown with Democratic leaders that led to a record 35-day partial shutdown of the federal government.

The shutdown, which ended Jan. 25, and the political battles that preceded it over the past several months have had little apparent effect on public opinion about a wall. Fifty-seven percent opposed major new construction of walls seven months ago,


Trump couldn't get it done when he controlled the WH and both houses of Congress.
He let Pelosi goad him into admitting he was responsible for the shutdown, his only chance of getting it done,

His approval rate tanked when he tried shutting down the government to get his way.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

A large majority don't want him declaring an emergency to get funding by decree:
Two-thirds of Americans oppose President Donald Trump declaring a national emergency if Congress doesn’t offer up the funds he wants to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border, a CBS News poll released Sunday shows.

Most survey respondents -- 73 percent -- also said they want Trump to continue negotiating while keeping the government open, rather than forcing another shutdown when funding expires again in mid-February. Two-thirds of Americans oppose President Donald Trump declaring a national emergency if Congress doesn’t offer up the funds he wants to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border, a CBS News poll released Sunday shows.

Most survey respondents -- 73 percent -- also said they want Trump to continue negotiating while keeping the government open, rather than forcing another shutdown when funding expires again in mid-February.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...clare-emergency-to-build-border-wall-cbs-poll

Peolosi now says there will be no funding for the wall.

Doesn't look very likely, does it?
 

Catholic Crusader

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Barbara has posted the LIES from fake news media. (Barbara loves lies.) By the way, how are those polls going that say Hillary is winning?

Now let's hear from some border agents, most of whom are Hispanic by the way:




.......The Barbarian is a jerk who has posted on TOL for years and when he makes a database wasting post he exposes himself to possible banishment. Heck it wouldn't hurt my feeling at all to permanently ban him.......
 
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