Nang
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Uh, ever heard of the hypostatic union of the two natures in Jesus Christ, who was fully God and fully Man?
The Timelessness of God
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Uh, ever heard of the hypostatic union of the two natures in Jesus Christ, who was fully God and fully Man?
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What makes you think that you know anything about logic?
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This is NOT what I'm talking about. Quit trying to make yourself look good by TRYING to make something, something that it's NOT!
BEFORE Christ came in the flesh was God "manlike"?
Nang
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Nang
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Well, in the beginning, before the Incarnation, man was made in the image of God.
There must have been some similarity . . .
Does this infer that claims such as "outside of time" may transpire into coherent assertions?
Many things could fit this bill, including the mysterious universe itself....what evidence is there to definitively suggest the Christian God for such?
Depends upon context. Both be formidable under different situations. A rather apples to oranges comparison.
Nang
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True colors shown . . .What year did YOU become a TOL member?
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Nang
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Logic produces explanations and conclusions.
What is the logic of your claim that God is not "manlike?"
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It figures that you don't know.
Nangian logic:
- God created man in His image.
- Therefore, God must be "manlike".
I know that Q does not equal P and 2+2=4 :idunno:
Why don't you simply answer the question?
Nang
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RD's logic:
God created man in His image
God Incarnated in the flesh as a Man
God is not manlike
I have been debating that God is outside of time here and others have been debating that He is within time. I asserted that I could take either side of the argument at the beginning of this debate, but I am taking my favorite stance on the matter.
Again... you are biased against the idea of Christ. This is not a prove Christ existed thread. I did my historical homework. There are prior atheists and agnostics in this room. I am one of them. Do not be fooled into thinking you've stepped into a room of nit wit people that have blind faith.
Allow me to remind you... you came on here expressing a stereotypical "evangelical" perspective. When you were sarcastically addressed by myself multiple times, you revealed in your choice of words that you have a bias against Christianity.
I know the poem you site in your signature and fully understand it.
I also agree with much of it. I and many here are more then satirical "believers" blindly believing in ancient god or god's. You were in a yes or no question cycle that ensures honesty between us, but I detect that you are not here to debate.
It feels like you are here to assert your negative preconceptions about Christ followers onto us. A true follower of Gaultama would not be employing your methods.
I will ask you a very pointed question now.
What are you searching for here? Entertainment? Friendship? An opportunity to vent your hostility at people you don't know that represent a faith that has harmed you?
What is your motivation for being here?
I would say I'm biased against any dogmatic claims be they Christian, Muslim or whatnot...this just happens to primarily be a Christian forum from which I view it from a primarily Christian country (USA) therefore that is the base from were I speak.
Think of me as a test of your faith and you, mine. I came to this forum and others before here in an effort to debate against the predominate, defacto religious mindset I've endured and resisted throughout my life. I find it fundamentally flawed...and argue to this point vigorously.
I'm here partly for entertainment, partly for the intellectual grappling....and I'm still waiting for that KO Christian argument that convinces me of the errors of my "heretical" ways.
Religion is the devil's playground. You won't get that KO from me. I will however tell you that your answer rings deeply honest!
#No more Respect Probation... you have mine.
Instead of dueling with you one on one... please stay a while and be entertained, and beat us to death with questions on the topic. This is a very open minded debate.
If you want me to answer the question about expanding on my first no... I will.
But if you're looking for someone to push any faith on you or ask you... would you like to be saved?... I'm not that person. Our search and personal path is the most important part of our part in the matter of "God".
I have reread your post several times now and am shocked at how honest it is! I'm not easy to shock.
I hope to have more opportunity to discuss and debate with you.
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So long. :wave:
I won't be back to this thread.
Precisely.
I mean, perhaps the idea of time didn't exist before someone thought of keeping track of events relative to other events but that doesn't mean that the events didn't occur in a particular order and for a particular duration.