the three johns

chrysostom

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the three johns

why does john mention his name three times in the first chapter?

why is the name of Jesus not mentioned in chapters 4 thru 11?

why are the churches not mentioned in the commentary by Victorinus?

why aren't the churches acknowledge in the church history written by Eusebius?

why doesn't Eusebius mention the martyr Antipas?

why did they mention ancient copies of the apocalypse?

why didn't they agree on whether the apocalypse was written by the apostle?

the only answer for all of these questions
is
there was more than one version of the apocalypse

possibly three

see boismard


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the apocalypse

john the baptist was the greatest of all prophets
-so-
why aren't his prophecies in the bible?
 

chrysostom

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john the baptist wrote the first apocalypse to prepare the way for the Lamb
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john the apostle later added the churches and antipas
 

chrysostom

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the apostle was called to prophesy again -
there were baptist followers in ephesus who had not accepted Jesus
 

chrysostom

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Who bare record - baptist
John to the seven churches - apostle
I John, who also am your brother - chrysostom
 

granpa

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the three johns

why does john mention his name three times in the first chapter?

why is the name of Jesus not mentioned in chapters 4 thru 11?

why are the churches not mentioned in the commentary by Victorinus?

why aren't the churches acknowledge in the church history written by Eusebius?

why doesn't Eusebius mention the martyr Antipas?

why did they mention ancient copies of the apocalypse?

why didn't they agree on whether the apocalypse was written by the apostle?

the only answer for all of these questions
is
there was more than one version of the apocalypse

possibly three

see boismard


back to
the apocalypse

The vision of Revelation was given on the Mount of transfiguration to Peter, Andrew and John and possibly also too James. Each one gave an account and all of those accounts were combined to create the Book of Revelation
 

chrysostom

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The vision of Revelation was given on the Mount of transfiguration to Peter, Andrew and John and possibly also too James. Each one gave an account and all of those accounts were combined to create the Book of Revelation

so why would john introduce himself three times?
 

chrysostom

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the time is near -
this is john the baptist not the apostle -
talking about the first coming not the second
 

oatmeal

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the three johns

why does john mention his name three times in the first chapter?

why is the name of Jesus not mentioned in chapters 4 thru 11?

why are the churches not mentioned in the commentary by Victorinus?

why aren't the churches acknowledge in the church history written by Eusebius?

why doesn't Eusebius mention the martyr Antipas?

why did they mention ancient copies of the apocalypse?

why didn't they agree on whether the apocalypse was written by the apostle?

the only answer for all of these questions
is
there was more than one version of the apocalypse

possibly three

see boismard


back to
the apocalypse


God authored all scripture. If you have questions, why not go to scripture to find out the answers?

God answered all questions pertaining to life and godliness in scripture. II Peter 1:3-4

Anything outside of life and godliness, well.

Why isn't God mentioned in Esther?

Do you want to know scripture or opinions about scripture?

If you want to learn scripture read scripture. Find an apostle or a prophet or an evangelist or pastor or teacher who is functioning as one and learn from them or someone who has learned from one of them.

Why didn't Jesus write a book in scripture? Because God had other things for him to do. Like redeeming man and making the gift of salvation available to everyone.
 
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