the seven heads
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Rondonmonson
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The Pax-Romana and using one "common language", throughout much of their empire (Koine Greek) was a big factor in what was different about the Fourth Beast.(Rome) They unlike the Beasts (Babylon, Persia and Greece) pretty much allowed home rule, and local religions to abide, as long as the taxes were paid and the countrymen did not try to overthrow Roman Rule. They were very heinous also, they would crucify many people when they conquered a nation, and leave their bodies lining the streets for days, for "effect".
Without this Pax-Romanus which allowed free travel over much of Europe, Asia-Minor and the Middle-East the Gospel would never have been able to spread and get off the ground, and the Koine Greek being a common language was also very important for the spreading of the Gospel. Without this "ROMAN PEACE" the Gospel would have had a hard time getting off the ground, spreading around the region, then the world eventually.
Rome thus was different from all the others in that they ruled in a far different manner. Jesus came at just the perfect time. Isn't God great with His timing ?
wouldn't you expect the fourth beast to still be with us today?
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it would still be around after the thousand years
Rondonmonson
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No sir, when the Beasts are Beasts Israel has to be a Nation/Peoples who are Conquered/Subjugated by the Beast/Nation. The framework is still there of course, Rome was the Fourth Beast, and at he End Time a Little Horn arises out of the Fourth Beast. (I have a blog explaining this is detail, where the Anti-Christ is born {Greece} and what country he comes to power in {European Union once it gets reduced to 10 Kings/Nations} if you would be interested, It explains this in further detail.) http://mrrondonmon.blogspot.com/2016/03/the-birthplace-of-anti-christ.html
Once this Man of Sin/Anti-Christ conquers Israel and forces an Idol of himself to be worshiped in the Temple of God, this is when Israel is Conquered, and this is why the "Beast" only rules 42 months over Israel or is given power of the Saints for 42 months, he doesn't become a Beast until he conquers Israel. He arises out of the Fourth Beasts Ruins so to speak or out of their "Footprint". (Europe). This is why the Ottoman Empire is not a Beast, they ruled the land of Israel, but never ruled the land of Israel while the Jews were in the Land.
But you are correct, it will be Rome so to speak (Europe) in which the Beast/Anti-Christ comes to power at the end times. Daniel 7 and 8 describes this perfectly, that is what my blog is about, how this Anti-Christ or Little Horn arises out of Two-Kingdoms at once, Greece is where he is/was born and Europe is where he comes to power via the E.U. (After it is realigned to 10 Kingdoms/Nations no doubt).
This all lines up with Ezekiel's prophecy of Dry Bones also, Israel becomes Dead Men's Bones (they were no more a nation) and God disperses them unto all the nations around the world for their disobedience. Then Ezekiel is asked, Can These Bones Live Again ? And we know the answer to that, they were revived in 1948. Thus they can now be conquered again, setting up the Fourth Beast to be Revived.
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S.T. Ranger
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How about a broader view?
Revelation 17:7-13
King James Version (KJV)
7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
We are told the seven heads and ten horns are to be explained.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
A total of seven Kings for the seven Mountains.
Five are fallen: Egypt, Assyria, Medo-Persia, Babylon, and Greece.
One is: Rome.
The other is not yet come: the Empire the Anti-Christ rules, though he is not the first ruler, the seventh King is.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
He is of the seventh Kingdom/Empire, but arises to take the Kingdom (and I place this as likely at the mid-point of the Tribulation.
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
These are not in power at the time of the writing, just as the Seventh Kingdom is not yet arrived (which makes it unlikely that Rome, which was in power at the time can be considered). Their rule is limited to a short time.
They support the base authority that is the Beast from which the seven heads arise/arose:
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
God bless.
Revelation 17:7-13
King James Version (KJV)
7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
We are told the seven heads and ten horns are to be explained.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
A total of seven Kings for the seven Mountains.
Five are fallen: Egypt, Assyria, Medo-Persia, Babylon, and Greece.
One is: Rome.
The other is not yet come: the Empire the Anti-Christ rules, though he is not the first ruler, the seventh King is.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
He is of the seventh Kingdom/Empire, but arises to take the Kingdom (and I place this as likely at the mid-point of the Tribulation.
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
These are not in power at the time of the writing, just as the Seventh Kingdom is not yet arrived (which makes it unlikely that Rome, which was in power at the time can be considered). Their rule is limited to a short time.
They support the base authority that is the Beast from which the seven heads arise/arose:
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
God bless.
Rondonmonson
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I have went over this on the previous page, POST 108,110,112 and 120 so no need in reposting, you can get my view there.
This is true, the "Mystery" is explained, here is no Mystery.
I agree with all but the last sentence. The Anti-Christ is the Seventh King, it is the 8th that is of the 7, because of course Satan has ruled all 7 kings by proxy. Satan gives the Seventh King his power, just as Daniel chapter 8 says.
The Confusion is people actually think there is an 8th King or Man, but the Anti-Christ never gives up his power, he only becomes a "BEAST" when he conquers Israel at the 42 month mark or midway mark. The 8th King is only Satan, who was Lord over all of the 7, just like Jesus was Lord over all 12 (counting Paul) disciples. Jesus is our King and Lord. Satan is their King or Lord.
the seven heads are the seven dynasties of the roman empire -
the first beast of the apocalypse -
it destroyed the temple
the first beast of the apocalypse -
it destroyed the temple
the first beast with seven heads was mortally wounded
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replaced by the second beast with ten horns
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unlike all the others
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replaced by the second beast with ten horns
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unlike all the others
think bigger -
individuals are big -
dynasties are bigger -
empires are biggest -
very few individuals are big enough to be mentioned in the apocalypse
very few dynasties
very few empires
individuals are big -
dynasties are bigger -
empires are biggest -
very few individuals are big enough to be mentioned in the apocalypse
very few dynasties
very few empires
Same countries Germany and Turkey. Pope Francis is the Islamic Imam. The fourth Reich is world wide.
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look for dynasties
you should be looking -
stp is watching
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the seven heads are the seven dynasties of the roman empire
SaulToPaul 2
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:chuckle:
thanks for watching