Jerry Shugart
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When we look closely at the verses which speak of "predestination" we will see that they do not speak of being presdestined to salvation:
Romans 8:29 is not saying that some people are predestined to be saved but instead that it is determined beforehand that those who are already saved will be "conformed to the image of the Son."
It was determined beforehand that those of this dispensation who are already saved will be "conformed to the image of His Son" when they meet Him in the air and puts on a glorious body just like His glorious body:
Having Predestined us to Adoption as Sons
The following verse is also speaking of the same destiny of those who are already saved:
That is the same "adoption" that is in regard to the redemption of the body:
Being Predestined to an Inheritance
The following verse is also referring to the same exact thing:
Just a couple of verses later we see that the inheritance will be received at the redemption of the purchased possession:
The redemption of the purchased possession will happen on the day of redemption and the purchased possession is our new, glorious body:
So we can understand that the verses which use the word "predestinate" in regard to a person's destiny are not speaking of anyone being predestinated to salvation.
"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren" (Ro.8:29).
Romans 8:29 is not saying that some people are predestined to be saved but instead that it is determined beforehand that those who are already saved will be "conformed to the image of the Son."
It was determined beforehand that those of this dispensation who are already saved will be "conformed to the image of His Son" when they meet Him in the air and puts on a glorious body just like His glorious body:
"But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body" (Phil.3:20-21).
Having Predestined us to Adoption as Sons
The following verse is also speaking of the same destiny of those who are already saved:
"Having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will" (Eph.1:5).
That is the same "adoption" that is in regard to the redemption of the body:
"And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body" (Ro.8:23).
Being Predestined to an Inheritance
The following verse is also referring to the same exact thing:
"In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will" (Eph.1:11).
Just a couple of verses later we see that the inheritance will be received at the redemption of the purchased possession:
"In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession" (Eph.1:13-14).
The redemption of the purchased possession will happen on the day of redemption and the purchased possession is our new, glorious body:
"And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption...the redemption of our body" (Eph.4:30; Ro.8:23).
So we can understand that the verses which use the word "predestinate" in regard to a person's destiny are not speaking of anyone being predestinated to salvation.
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