THE MYSTERY KEPT SECRET

[God's Truth]

Yup as the Almighty One had only ONE begotten Son...

the rest of us created and from Adam who believe and are obedient to Him His Ways ARE ADOPTED...

and will be restored to Him His Ways in the end...ONE BODY

Jesus is a BLOOD relative of Abraham through Isaac and Jacob.

 

[God's Truth]

No kidding... Yes, I knew that and was not suggesting otherwise.

The church which is His body is NOT Israel. You can pervert the scripture all that you want... not going to change reality.

You say you know that, but then WHY do you KEEP BRINGING UP ISHMAEL?

 

[clefty]

Jesus lived every day holy.
He and his Father worked every day even on the Sabbath.

Yup He lived every day holy...did NOT make EVERY day Holy...notice the difference?

Besides you claim He broke His Father's Law so which is it?

 

[clefty]

Israel is a type of Christ just like the Rock in the desert and the bronze snake.

LOL...wow you make things up...now you make Israel a rock and a snake...LOL

such imagination...

Israel was to BLESS all the nations...NOT SAVE THEM...I mean you want all Jews and Israel hung on a cross do you?

Now back to what Paul said:

1 Cor 10:4They all ate the same spiritual food 4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

And John

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up...

explains your imagining "every day is Holy now...eat whatever" LOL

 

[God's Truth]

That does NOT make the church which is His body "Israel".

The body of Christ is a NEW creation and NOT a "mystical Israel".

God will one day restore Israel as His people on the earth.

Israel is a type of Jesus, just like many other things.

Is Jesus really a bronze snake? No. Is Jesus a big rock? No.

Israel is God's firstborn son, and that is a type of Jesus.
God is called the Father of Israel, Isaiah 64:8 ; Jeremiah 3:4 Jeremiah 3:19 ; Malachi 1:6 ; 2:10

 

[God's Truth]

LOL...wow you make things up...now you make Israel a rock and a snake...LOL

such imagination...

Israel was to BLESS all the nations...NOT SAVE THEM...I mean you want all Jews and Israel hung on a cross do you?

Now back to what Paul said:

1 Cor 10:4They all ate the same spiritual food 4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

And John

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up...

explains your imagining "every day is Holy now...eat whatever" LOL

Exodus 4:22-23 Then say to Pharaoh, 'This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son,
and I told you, "Let my son go, so he may worship me." But you refused to let him go; so I will kill your firstborn son.'"

 

[clefty]

Do you really think that Paul went around teaching Gentiles and Greeks that Jesus says not to eat pork and shrimp?

EXACTLY...yup...and the apostles did too...Is why Peter did NOT eat unclean...and the Jerusalem council agreed and James concluded the crowding gentiles would hear Moses every Sabbath still...

Do you eat hamburger with cheese? Why won’t you answer?

You try to make it as if Jesus came and taught the old law and now want the Gentiles to do the old law too.

What part of the new covenant lifestyle He taught and demonstrated says otherwise?

In this new covenant what part of "I WILL PUT MY LAW INTO HEARTS AND MINDS" do you not understand?

SOMEBODY had to make what was PROMISED to ABRAHAM: ALL nations blessed...a reality...so Yahushua did just THAT...despite Jews desire to monopolize and keep it for themselves...

but NOPE already when the ekklesia was in the wilderness the Sabbath day blessing was EVEN FOR THE GENTILES and even the animals...so for sure you are covered my little ox in the ditch...LOL

But I really shouldn't help make you MAD...you are the only one responding to me here in TOL...LOL

 

[clefty]

Israel is a type of Jesus, just like many other things.

Is Jesus really a bronze snake? No. Is Jesus a big rock? No.

Israel is God's firstborn son, and that is a type of Jesus.
God is called the Father of Israel, Isaiah 64:8 ; Jeremiah 3:4 Jeremiah 3:19 ; Malachi 1:6 ; 2:10

LOL...is Jesus a 24 hour period of time?

WOW Israel is God's firstborn son? I thought for sure Jesus was...

Israel was not even born...but RENAMED from Jacob...so maybe born again? Hmmm...nice

 

[God's Truth]

LOL...is Jesus a 24 hour period of time?

WOW Israel is God's firstborn son? I thought for sure Jesus was...

Israel was not even born...but RENAMED from Jacob...so maybe born again? Hmmm...nice

You are laughing at the scriptures of God.

 

[God's Truth]

EXACTLY...yup...and the apostles did too...Is why Peter did NOT eat unclean...and the Jerusalem council agreed and James concluded the crowding gentiles would hear Moses every Sabbath still...



What part of the new covenant lifestyle He taught and demonstrated says otherwise?

In this new covenant what part of "I WILL PUT MY LAW INTO HEARTS AND MINDS" do you not understand?

SOMEBODY had to make what was PROMISED to ABRAHAM: ALL nations blessed...a reality...so Yahushua did just THAT...despite Jews desire to monopolize and keep it for themselves...

but NOPE already when the ekklesia was in the wilderness the Sabbath day blessing was EVEN FOR THE GENTILES and even the animals...so for sure you are covered my little ox in the ditch...LOL

Answer the question Mr. Old Law.

Do you eat hamburgers with cheese?

 

[clefty]

You are laughing at the scriptures of God.

nope just you...scripture doesn't say Jesus is a calendar day

 

[clefty]

Answer the question Mr. Old Law.

Do you eat hamburgers with cheese?

Mr Old Law...hey that is funny...gimme that ol' time religion too...you know the faith lifestyle of Yahushua Peter Paul...all the rest there in Heb 11...



As for what I eat...I already did answer...go read my posts better...LOL

Scripture too...in fact THOSE first then my posts...

 

[God's Truth]

LOL...wow you make things up...now you make Israel a rock and a snake...LOL

such imagination...

You are mocking God and laughing at Him for saying He is the Rock.

God is our Rock, and Jesus is our Rock.
Psalm 31:2
Turn your ear to me, come quickly to my rescue; be my rock of refuge, a strong fortress to save me.
Psalm 31:3
Since you are my rock and my fortress, for the sake of your name lead and guide me.
Psalm 42:9
I say to God my Rock, "Why have you forgotten me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy?
Jesus is the rock
Romans 9:33
As it is written: “See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who believes in him will never be put to shame.”
1 Corinthians 10:4
and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
1 Peter 2:8
and, “A stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for.

 

[clefty]

You are mocking God and laughing at Him for saying He is the Rock.

God is our Rock, and Jesus is our Rock.
Psalm 31:2
Turn your ear to me, come quickly to my rescue; be my rock of refuge, a strong fortress to save me.
Psalm 31:3
Since you are my rock and my fortress, for the sake of your name lead and guide me.
Psalm 42:9
I say to God my Rock, "Why have you forgotten me? Why must I go about mourning, oppressed by the enemy?
Jesus is the rock
Romans 9:33
As it is written: “See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who believes in him will never be put to shame.”
1 Corinthians 10:4
and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
1 Peter 2:8
and, “A stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.” They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for.

I am not laughing at Him...but AT YOU for saying Israel was a rock...

I am sure Moses wanted to beat them like one at some points but well...

None of those texts say Israel was a rock...or a christ

 

[God's Truth]

I am not laughing at Him...but AT YOU for saying Israel was a rock...

I am sure Moses wanted to beat them like one at some points but well...

None of those texts say Israel was a rock...or a christ

Where did I say Israel was a rock.

And you are laughing at God.

 

[clefty]

Where did I say Israel was a rock.

Post #90 "Israel is a type of Christ just like the Rock in the desert and the bronze snake."

So if Israel = Christ and Christ = Rock...

oh and Christ = bronze snake...Israel = snake too...hmmm...current Jewish apostate yes...LOL​

And you are laughing at God.

nope...again...at you...

your x is like y is HORRIBLE...

like your "every day is Holy now...eat whatever"...

 

[God's Truth]

Post #90 "Israel is a type of Christ just like the Rock in the desert and the bronze snake."

So if Israel = Christ and Christ = Rock...

oh and Christ = bronze snake...Israel = snake too...hmmm...current Jewish apostate yes...LOL​

You prove you say things that others don't say.

The Bible calls God the Father a Rock, and Jesus is called a Rock. God the Father calls Israel His firstborn son. Jesus is God's firstborn son. The bronze snake in the desert was a type of Christ.

nope...again...at you...

your x is like y is HORRIBLE...

like your "every day is Holy now...eat whatever"...

You do laugh and mock God. You posted for all to see it.

 

[clefty]

You prove you say things that others don't say.

The Bible calls God the Father a Rock, and Jesus is called a Rock.

so far so good

God the Father calls Israel His firstborn son.

yup He does tell Moses to tell Pharaoh that...but you do understand it is spiritual yes...as well Israel was then a group of people with girls too and NOT A SON...

Jesus is God's firstborn son.

ok good back on track...

The bronze snake in the desert was a type of Christ.

ok phew...that is scriptural

"Israel is a type of Christ just like the Rock in the desert and the bronze snake." ​

Israel does not replace His ACTUAL first born and only begotten Son.. and is not a type of rock or type of snake

Israel is by adoption...adopting even a new name did Jacob

You do laugh and mock God. You posted for all to see it.

nope laughing at what you say...you are funny

relax...at least I don't post what you say under another posters name and not even apologize...

or make up silly things like "every day is Holy now...we can eat swine now"

that is YOUR another gospel another christ

 

[God's Truth]

so far so good

yup He does tell Moses to tell Pharaoh that...but you do understand it is spiritual yes...as well Israel was then a group of people with girls too and NOT A SON...

ok good back on track...

ok phew...that is scriptural

"Israel is a type of Christ just like the Rock in the desert and the bronze snake." ​

Israel does not replace His ACTUAL first born and only begotten Son.. and is not a type of rock or type of snake

Israel is by adoption...adopting even a new name did Jacob

You like to twist things like a snake.

nope laughing at what you say...you are funny

relax...at least I don't post what you say under another posters name and not even apologize...

or make up silly things like "every day is Holy now...we can eat swine now"

that is YOUR another gospel another christ

Show where I put posts in your name on purpose.

You do lie about what I say and put quote marks as if I said it.

 

[God's Truth]

tell that to Peter who ate NO UNCLEAN THING...

And what did God teach him?

tell that to James and the Acts 15 Jerusalem council which concluded 4 things the believing goyim who were crowding the synagogues every Sabbath were to do...3 of them dealt with dietary issues...

Notice it was nothing about what you talk about?