jsanford108
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Firstly, what is the that translation? I only debate with real Bibles.
I honestly thought that was funny.
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Firstly, what is the that translation? I only debate with real Bibles.
First off, they are going against me for saying they have to obey to get saved; and, they go against me for saying they have to obey to stay saved.
Just because you don't see something doesn't mean it isn't there.
Everyone who believes the false teachings that you and your ilk preach will be responsible for all those who succumb to alcoholism, drug addition, sexual immorality, and more.
I reckon everybody has to try that first.
How dare they go against you.
Vise versa, just because you see something doesn't mean it is.
Everyone is responsible for their own actions. I think this phrasing is a bit harsh, and not exactly in line with what you have said thus far. Just my opinion.
Why would you say how dare they go against me?
This is a discussion and debate site.
Absolutely not.
People are responsible for preaching falseness.
It is more serious than you think.
False teachings gave me much hardship in my life, and to others.
It hinders those who want to be saved, and it even prevents people from ever knowing God.
I agree to an extent; people are responsible for what they believe and teach. And, it is a grave matter to lead one astray.
However, people answer for "their works," not "others' works."
So, you are right to a degree, and wrong in a degree. I can't be blamed for some one becoming an alcoholic. I can be blamed if I led them, knowingly, to alcoholism.
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No, I am not wrong.
I think you misunderstand what I am saying.
There are people who hear the teaching of 'just have faith and do nothing else'.
They think they are saved and then do not even know that they have to repent of their sins.
There are people who would stop drinking and doing drugs if they were taught the truth about believe and repent of your sins.
You really need to get out more...
You do know though that you are the one who needs to, right?
If you say so Ms. my works is enough...
Let's talk about what you said earlier about if a person keeps sinning after they are "saved", then they need to get saved.
lol
Nice try....won't work...but let's discuss it.
Do you even read what you type? I mean seriously. I say if one doesn't believe, HE/SHE will NEVER obey. The disobedience is the proof you don't believe.
If you can willfully and knowingly sin against the will of God with no conviction, no compunction, and no remorse, you need to get saved.
They believe but didn't obey.
Sounds good to me, let's discuss it.
Here is is again:
You are dreaming.
Jesus says why do you call me Lord and don't do what I say?
They believe but didn't obey.
Well good for you for seeing that we have to OBEY to get saved.
Do you get it now?
You are becoming much better, GT
good for you
Paul is clearly stating that God will judge us by our deeds.
If you ignore that simple fact, then you will never understand what Paul is trying to convey in the rest of Romans.