THE LORDS DAY CONTROVERSY?

clefty

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The only way the wall was taken away is when Jews and Gentiles believe and obey Jesus THE SAME WAY.


Yup a real answer to my prayers that you see Him His Ways more clearly...

Please obey Jesus THE SAME WAY as He obeyed His Father and THE SAME WAY the BELIEVING Jew and the BELIEVING gentile did that first century...as there was NO DISTINCTION between the two

Please to do nothing to rebuild that dividing wall He abolished in His flesh and undo what He did to loose Sabbath from the Jews and restore Sabbath as it was “made for man” and not just Jews...

As faith compels works (His Works) so too does accepting what WAS DONE FOR YOU (His death) compel you to accept what IS GIVEN TO YOU...(His Sabbath)

Such grace a foreSHADOW now of the good things STILL to come...
 
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clefty

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The only way the wall was taken away is when Jews and Gentiles believe and obey Jesus THE SAME WAY.

I LOVE how you came to see it..."the ONLY way the wall was taken away"

Paul was clear the enmity the Jews had for gentiles was exactly that dividing wall

which He IN HIS FLESH destroyed...took away...so the wall WAS taken away...IF the JEW agrees...and does not rebuild it or teach others to do so with "every day is Holy" because of Jewish false witness that "Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered"


the JEW has to AGREE their enmity for goyim was done away with in their LOVE FOR HIM and LET the goyim IN...

the JEW must love Yahushua and thus SEE that He was for the goyim too...as the OT temple was to be for ALL NATIONS...and the PROMISE

the JEW SEEING the goyim now DEVOUT and Yah fearing and giving alms and NOT DESTROYING the customs Moses delivered to them will MORE LIKELY allow us IN to the PROMISE and protections of Torah...which He gave us...from the beginning

BOTH Jew and goyim will see there is NO NEED for the Temple as BOTH have learned MERCY RATHER than sacrifice...

and BOTH are His people the citizens of Israel...as it was to always be and will be

Thy Will be done ON earth as it is in Heaven...

All this of course will NOT happen and thus the book of Revelations...

But for a short time there both Jew and Goyim obeyed Jesus the SAME WAY...

The remnant still will...

“For here are they that keep the commandments of Yah and the faith OF Yahushua...”
 
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God's Truth

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I LOVE how you came to see it...

You shouldn't use the word love in such a maligned way.,

"the ONLY way the wall was taken away"

Paul was clear the enmity the Jews had for gentiles was exactly that dividing wall

which He IN HIS FLESH destroyed...took away...so the wall WAS taken away...IF the JEW agrees...and does not rebuild it or teach others to do so with "every day is Holy" because of Jewish false witness that "Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered"

The wall is taken away when people come to Christ. through his body that was crucified.

the JEW has to AGREE their enmity for goyim was done away with in their LOVE FOR HIM and LET the goyim IN...


the JEW must love Yahushua and thus SEE that He was for the goyim too...as the OT temple was to be for ALL NATIONS...and the PROMISE

the JEW SEEING the goyim now DEVOUT and Yah fearing and giving alms and NOT DESTROYING the customs Moses delivered to them will MORE LIKELY allow us IN to the PROMISE and protections of Torah...which He gave us...from the beginning
BOTH Jew and goyim will see there is NO NEED for the Temple as BOTH have learned MERCY RATHER than sacrifice...

and BOTH are His people the citizens of Israel...as it was to always be and will be

Thy Will be done ON earth as it is in Heaven...

All this of course will NOT happen and thus the book of Revelations...

But for a short time there both Jew and Goyim obeyed Jesus the SAME WAY...

The remnant still will...

“For here are they that keep the commandments of Yah and the faith OF Yahushua...”

Jesus made a new covenant. Any Jew not in the new covenant with Jesus, they are condemned, just like the Gentiles who don't believe and obey Jesus.
All have to be saved the same way.
 

clefty

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You shouldn't use the word love in such a maligned way.,
ouch...

Hey I was being genuine...believe it or not I have chosen to spend this much time on you becuase I believe the Spirit is pricking you...and not that you are here with evil intent...

and if the Spirit reveals it to you this way then I LOVE it as you are led to understand it is up to the people to decide the wall is done away with...a wall the Jews built first...their enmity towards Gentiles...which He came to do away with and remind Jews that His House was for ALL nations...as Yah so loved the WORLD not just Jews that WHOSOEVER believes and NOT just Jews...

or are you anti semitic like the earlier church was desiring to divorce itself from all things Jewish...as if He was a blonde blue eyed Sunday keeping ham eating European named Jesus...LOL

And dont believe Jewish fables either as Titus was instructed...who insist that the wall remains....and their false witness of “Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered them” certainly keeps it up...

Yah gave the Holy Spirit to gentiles who were devout and Yah fearing like Cornelius’ household while Peter spoke to themActs 10:44

and Peter later claims Yah saw NO DISTINCTION Acts 15:9 BECAUSE they being gentiles believed and obeyed Jesus THE SAME WAY as did the Jews who believed...NO DISTINCTION could be made...now if the gentiles kept EVERY day holy or ate swine...well even blind pagans could distinct that...LOL

So YAY for the Holy Spirit to lead you to see if from the prespective that it is both the Jew and Gentile believing and obeying THE SAME WAY...because they LOVE Yahushua...


The wall is taken away when people come to Christ. through his body that was crucified.
yup and faith compels works and now THE SAME WORKS both Jew and Gentile...and also compels fruit and NOW THE SAME FRUIT both Jew and Gentile and BECAUSE THEY LOVE HIM...which He asked you do IF you Love Him...abide in Him LIVE LIKE HIM...THE SAME WAY



Jesus made a new covenant. Any Jew not in the new covenant with Jesus, they are condemned, just like the Gentiles who don't believe and obey Jesus.
All have to be saved the same way.
Yup IS WHY gentiles believing Him and having faith in Him were saved AND THUS crowding the synagogue WANTING to hear Moses preached and read EVERY SABBATH...to learn how else they could love and obey THE SAME WAY as Jews who believed AND STILL OBEYED...
 
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