The Logos-Word

[Bright Raven]

God made a clone of himself. A spirit son, the first of all creation. And he created all through that son in heaven and earth. This son is first to be born of all creatures.

BLASPHEMY

 

[Lazy afternoon]

BLASPHEMY

It is but he does not know it.

LA

 

[Bright Raven]

It is but he does not know it.

LA

Makes no difference. He knows better and just does not care.

 

[keypurr]

Ok I agree with it, except for -The man Yeshua therefore cannot be the Logos-Word.

He is the word made flesh.


Now will you answer my question.

LA

ARAMAIC ENGLISH NEW TESTAMENT

YOCHANAN (JOHN)
Chapter 1
1. In the beginning was the Miltha. And that Miltha was with Elohim. And Elohim was that Miltha.
2. This was with Elohim in the beginning.
3. Everything existed through his hands……….

Miltha refers to the “Manifestation” of the Ruach haKodesh within Mashiyach. The physical body of Mashiyach is not the Word of YHWH, but his words and actions demonstrate the Will and Word of YHWH, which upholds observance of Torah.

Miltha is the spiritual son of Elohim (God).
Mashiyach refers to Messiah Y’shua (Jesus Christ)
YHWH is the name of the most high God.
Ruach haKodesh is the Holy Spirit.
Elohim is God or a god, it can refer to more than the creator.

 

[keypurr]

Makes no difference. He knows better and just does not care.

God is a spirit so his exact copy in every way has to be a spirit.

I see this logos (spirit son) as the first of all creation. For God created ALL through him. He is written to be a creature not God. You can not change what the scriptures tell you BR.

 

[keypurr]

BLASPHEMY

Nope, just truth.

 

[keypurr]

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

 

[Lazy afternoon]

ARAMAIC ENGLISH NEW TESTAMENT

YOCHANAN (JOHN)
Chapter 1
1. In the beginning was the Miltha. And that Miltha was with Elohim. And Elohim was that Miltha.
2. This was with Elohim in the beginning.
3. Everything existed through his hands……….

Miltha refers to the “Manifestation” of the Ruach haKodesh within Mashiyach. The physical body of Mashiyach is not the Word of YHWH, but his words and actions demonstrate the Will and Word of YHWH, which upholds observance of Torah.

Miltha is the spiritual son of Elohim (God).
Mashiyach refers to Messiah Y’shua (Jesus Christ)
YHWH is the name of the most high God.
Ruach haKodesh is the Holy Spirit.
Elohim is God or a god, it can refer to more than the creator.

Nothing is said that the spiritual son is created, nor that there was a son at the creation.

Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

All singular pronouns.

LA

 

[Bright Raven]

God is a spirit so his exact copy in every way has to be a spirit.

I see this logos (spirit son) as the first of all creation. For God created ALL through him. He is written to be a creature not God. You can not change what the scriptures tell you BR.

BLASPHEMY again, you're wrong

 

[keypurr]

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

God created ALL through his Spirit Son.

 

[Lazy afternoon]

God is a spirit so his exact copy in every way has to be a spirit.

I see this logos (spirit son) as the first of all creation. For God created ALL through him. He is written to be a creature not God. You can not change what the scriptures tell you BR.

No.

An image does not have to be of the same substance of what it is an image of.

The image in this case is the Glorified man Jesus Christ.

LA

 

[Bright Raven]

Nope, just truth.

Truth from the pit of Hell!!!

 

[Lazy afternoon]

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

God created ALL through his Spirit Son.

No scripture says that.

LA

 

[Sherman]

Locking this thread because it has gotten too far afield the more of this Jesus is not God nonsense.