The Late Great Urantia Revelation
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Letsargue
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HHA HAA, - Well that depends on which ones. ( Every single so called "christian" ) has a totally different doctrine than even his own church brothers. -- I have to go by what is written for now in life, until I can be ( Proven Wrong ).
I have given these guys some of the MOST far fetched statements according to their doctrines, and they Still can't prove me wrong with their own said, accepted Word of God. -- Let me try a good one here, if you don't mind.
Christians cannot have any from of a division between them, they Must speak and teach the same thing pertaining to everything of God without exception. Now that doesn't mean that things must be stated the same way. We can teach the Truth in our own words, to give a better understanding of anything taught. - (( As long as it does not contradict with the Word of God in any "WAY" )). -- It is seen, that is the case with the teachings of the Four Gospels, there is much difference between them, but they are the same, and the four heard the very same Revelation.
I have NO Brothers at all in my carnal presence here. Thus, ( "Where there are 2 or 3 gathered together, in Christ's name, there Christ is also )". - There, - there's a problem with me as an earth visited "Church". -- Church means Group, and I am not a group, a group of carnal people, that is. -- However!! -- The Body of Christ is made up of many spirits of men made perfect. They are called Angels. Now then, that changes my existence here, - The flesh cannot be in the Body of Christ, therefore, I am not of the Body of flesh or of the World. -- The I, - the who I AM, is with spirits without number, as the stars of HEAVEN. ---- That makes the return of Christ in His spiritual Body, My Spiritual Body given me as an inheritance. Thus, I can say, (( I - HAVE RETURNED ))!!, and I have not found Faith on the earth.
Now let's see if any, at least of the so called "christians who are Not, (( Prove ME Wrong ))!! -- Is what I said not far, far out of their teaching, therefore if they are Christian, they could prove me wrong with the greatest of Ease. But I'll sleep with ease tonight.
Paul, David -- 081714
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freelight
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relating concepts......
relating concepts......
As shared before....the papers present their own cosmology-context in which its theology is comprehended. Truths are related thru such frameworks as information constructs.
Jesus is the 'Son of God/Son of Man' concept...the synthesis of both human and divine values. Behind any duality however is the one divine reality or identity as the 'I Am' which is pure awareness, the only real 'God' prior to words, names or concepts. There is that which is beyond conception, while all else is a conception of one form or another. All here in this dimension is a play of such duality.
Any attacking a work they regard as 'religious-fiction', especially a few here so passionately reveal their own psychological issues, instead of using such as a creative opportunity for discussion. It also shows their own insecurities lying at the heart of their own religious belief system, since by some fear threatens its foundation, as if truth could be threatened anyways.
One universal Spirit and Consciousness pervades the Universe. Reality includes what is personal and non-personal....yet the papers emphasize the personality of God, we relating to Him as his children.
pj
relating concepts......
As shared before....the papers present their own cosmology-context in which its theology is comprehended. Truths are related thru such frameworks as information constructs.
Jesus is the 'Son of God/Son of Man' concept...the synthesis of both human and divine values. Behind any duality however is the one divine reality or identity as the 'I Am' which is pure awareness, the only real 'God' prior to words, names or concepts. There is that which is beyond conception, while all else is a conception of one form or another. All here in this dimension is a play of such duality.
Any attacking a work they regard as 'religious-fiction', especially a few here so passionately reveal their own psychological issues, instead of using such as a creative opportunity for discussion. It also shows their own insecurities lying at the heart of their own religious belief system, since by some fear threatens its foundation, as if truth could be threatened anyways.
One universal Spirit and Consciousness pervades the Universe. Reality includes what is personal and non-personal....yet the papers emphasize the personality of God, we relating to Him as his children.
pj
1Mind1Spirit
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Paul stated when he was giving his opinion, when he was speaking by the spirit, when he was saying things that lined up with what he learned from the Spirit.
You have no clue what Jesus meant or Paul.
You deceive yourself.
Galatians 6:3 KJV
For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.
The practice of "circumcision" grew out of self mutilation related to the former practice of human sacrifice. This and many other ritualistic practices are simply part of evolutionary religion.
http://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-standardized/paper-89-sin-sacrifice-and-atonement?term=Circumcision#search-jump-result-0
http://www.urantia.org/urantia-book-standardized/paper-89-sin-sacrifice-and-atonement?term=Circumcision#search-jump-result-0
http://truthbook.com/urantia/topical-studies/kingdom-of-heaven
I have read this and it is all harmonize with Jesus' teachings. Is this all about Jesus' word?
Letsargue
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If you were a Christian, you would be right. It is Christ who speaks when the Christian speaks, - But in your case it is Satan who is speaking. -- There are not any two of you who speak or believe the same thing and YOU say you are in Christ with your brothers who are different from You. - Now just what does Satan do or say; you know, that Wolf in that bloody sheep skin?? He is a liar, and (( his children are his LIES )), and His Lies are his children, for Satan is the father of IT / His LIES. -- Prove that wrong!!
Paul, David -- 081714
When the Roman Catholic Church decided what material would go in the bible they would, by default, elevate Paul's words to be equal with Jesus' words.
Your accusations are born out of a frustration at not being able to control as you have been indoctrinated by doctrine.
Jesus is the master, he is my master.
Paul taught many things Jesus did not teach.
You don't notice that because you blindly follow traditional faith. You need to read Jesus' word.
1Mind1Spirit
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Ignorance.
If the dog hadn't stopped to crap he would have caught the rabbit.
If you hadn't stopped to smell it you would have seen the chase.
1Mind1Spirit
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Urantia book dont out trump scripture.
Aimiel
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Paul spoke and wrote what Jesus spoke to or through him just as the other holy men of old did in Scripture. He is an Apostle of The Lamb, as is anyone The Lord anoints to that office.
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Zeke
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The male Father concept casting a superior role is an aspect I don't agree with, now I haven't read the papers so this maybe dealt with some where, but the male dominance over Creation is one I would question as programming, and derogatory to the One Source.
Jesus taught all what we need to know. We don't need Paul's teachings.
You don't seem to trust Jesus as perfect teacher.
Letsargue
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What today's so called "christians" teach, has nothing to do with the ( TRUTH / CHRTST ). -- The Apostle Paul And Christ were the same One. That can be proven to one who cares about the Truth / Christ. Paul, with Christ in him, is given the name Jesus Christ, not just Jesus or just Christ. - The name - Jesus Christ means ( The Word being fulfilled ). That is Paul with Christ in him, not the complete Coming of Christ. - When Paul was about to be offered is when we hear the shout of Michael, the Arc Angel, who was Paul also, and that can be proven. --- You and yours will never Prove me Wrong using the Scriptures!!
Paul, David -- 081714
It's not here to out trump, it's like an update. One day the UB will be updated.
(1932.1) 178:1.16 And forget not: We have made no direct attack upon the persons or upon the authority of those who sit in Moses’ seat; we only offered them the new light, which they have so vigorously rejected. We have assailed them only by the denunciation of their spiritual disloyalty to the very truths which they profess to teach and safeguard. We clashed with these established leaders and recognized rulers only when they threw themselves directly in the way of the preaching of the gospel of the kingdom to the sons of men. And even now, it is not we who assail them, but they who seek our destruction. Do not forget that you are commissioned to go forth preaching only the good news. You are not to attack the old ways; you are skillfully to put the leaven of new truth in the midst of the old beliefs. Let the Spirit of Truth do his own work. Let controversy come only when they who despise the truth force it upon you. But when the willful unbeliever attacks you, do not hesitate to stand in vigorous defense of the truth which has saved and sanctified you.
Sorry, I disagree with you. I don't believe Paul has the same spirit as Jesus'. Paul tought many thing that Jesus did not teach.
I will not prove you, it is not my job to correct or prove you wrong. Jesus will correct you.
Letsargue
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SEE, that is your scripture from your father, the father of what you said, and who you are!!
Paul, David -- 081714
journey
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I pray that the Holy Spirit softens your hearts for the hearing of God's Word, the Gospel of the Grace of God.
Romans 10:17 KJV So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Romans 10:8-10 KJV But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Ephesians 2:8-10 KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Titus 3:4-7 KJV But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
Romans 10:17 KJV So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Romans 10:8-10 KJV But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Ephesians 2:8-10 KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Titus 3:4-7 KJV But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
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