The Late Great Urantia Revelation

[freelight]

God's will is universal......

God's will is universal......

I definitely understand what you are saying; however, I do not agree.

You would know the truth about the scriptures, if you obey the scriptures.

I tell you, that if you do what Jesus says in the New Testament, you will find out if it is truly God's Word.

Please try it. What do you have to lose?
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See John 7:17.

The doing of God's will is not limited to a reading of the Bible, since the doing of God's will is wholly promoted in the UB and other religious texts, so your excluding other texts is pointless.

As far as your quote from John is concerned, Jesus teaching in the UB agrees since the doing of God's will is the way of life. Fulfilling the divine will is its own reward. There is no reason to believe that only by reading what was canonized in the NT is the only way to know God's will.

Since you haven't read the UB or familiarized yourself with its essential theology-philosophy...you cannot assume such things as you do because of ignorance.


pj

 

[freelight]

Galatians 1:8


But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!

We've already been over this here.

Paul's gospel is irrelevant if we are speaking exclusively of Jesus's gospel message anyways. It is unnecessary to conclude the two as the same.


pj

 

[Aimiel]

There is only ONE Gospel, the UB is ANOTHER.

 

[freelight]

If you obeyed Jesus, you would not have another book.

You have another testament from celestial beings.

'God' is not limited to a book, or a person for that matter. If you educate yourself of Jesus teaching in Part 4 you'll find his teaching about the kingdom of heaven correlates perfectly with his teaching recorded in the gospels, they being understood in the appropriate context.

God doesnt mind or care how many books you have, as long as they help facilitate the doing of his will religiously speaking. Some books in this regard may be more helpful than others.



pj

 

[Aimiel]

The UB is NOT from God or even about God. It is about Jebus, false God who doesn't even exist.

 

[Caino]

Religious Growth​

(1094.3) 100:1.1 While religion produces growth of meanings and enhancement of values, evil always results when purely personal evaluations are elevated to the levels of absolutes. A child evaluates experience in accordance with the content of pleasure; maturity is proportional to the substitution of higher meanings for personal pleasure, even loyalties to the highest concepts of diversified life situations and cosmic relations.

(1094.4) 100:1.2 Some persons are too busy to grow and are therefore in grave danger of spiritual fixation. Provision must be made for growth of meanings at differing ages, in successive cultures, and in the passing stages of advancing civilization. The chief inhibitors of growth are prejudice and ignorance.

(1094.5) 100:1.3 Give every developing child a chance to grow his own religious experience; do not force a ready-made adult experience upon him. Remember, year-by-year progress through an established educational regime does not necessarily mean intellectual progress, much less spiritual growth. Enlargement of vocabulary does not signify development of character. Growth is not truly indicated by mere products but rather by progress. Real educational growth is indicated by enhancement of ideals, increased appreciation of values, new meanings of values, and augmented loyalty to supreme values.

(1094.6) 100:1.4 Children are permanently impressed only by the loyalties of their adult associates; precept or even example is not lastingly influential. Loyal persons are growing persons, and growth is an impressive and inspiring reality. Live loyally today — grow — and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole.

(1094.7) 100:1.5 The soil essential for religious growth presupposes a progressive life of self-realization, the co-ordination of natural propensities, the exercise of curiosity and the enjoyment of reasonable adventure, the experiencing of feelings of satisfaction, the functioning of the fear stimulus of attention and awareness, the wonder-lure, and a normal consciousness of smallness, humility. Growth is also predicated on the discovery of selfhood accompanied by self-criticism — conscience, for conscience is really the criticism of oneself by one’s own value-habits, personal ideals.

(1095.1) 100:1.6 Religious experience is markedly influenced by physical health, inherited temperament, and social environment. But these temporal conditions do not inhibit inner spiritual progress by a soul dedicated to the doing of the will of the Father in heaven. There are present in all normal mortals certain innate drives toward growth and self-realization which function if they are not specifically inhibited. The certain technique of fostering this constitutive endowment of the potential of spiritual growth is to maintain an attitude of wholehearted devotion to supreme values.

(1095.2) 100:1.7 Religion cannot be bestowed, received, loaned, learned, or lost. It is a personal experience which grows proportionally to the growing quest for final values. Cosmic growth thus attends on the accumulation of meanings and the ever-expanding elevation of values. But nobility itself is always an unconscious growth.

(1095.3) 100:1.8 Religious habits of thinking and acting are contributory to the economy of spiritual growth. One can develop religious predispositions toward favorable reaction to spiritual stimuli, a sort of conditioned spiritual reflex. Habits which favor religious growth embrace cultivated sensitivity to divine values, recognition of religious living in others, reflective meditation on cosmic meanings, worshipful problem solving, sharing one’s spiritual life with one’s fellows, avoidance of selfishness, refusal to presume on divine mercy, living as in the presence of God. The factors of religious growth may be intentional, but the growth itself is unvaryingly unconscious.

(1095.4) 100:1.9 The unconscious nature of religious growth does not, however, signify that it is an activity functioning in the supposed subconscious realms of human intellect; rather does it signify creative activities in the superconscious levels of mortal mind. The experience of the realization of the reality of unconscious religious growth is the one positive proof of the functional existence of the superconsciousness.
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[God's Truth]

'God' is not limited to a book, or a person for that matter. If you educate yourself of Jesus teaching in Part 4 you'll find his teaching about the kingdom of heaven correlates perfectly with his teaching recorded in the gospels, they being understood in the appropriate context.

God doesnt mind or care how many books you have, as long as they help facilitate the doing of his will religiously speaking. Some books in this regard may be more helpful than others.



pj

God does care about how many books we have.

Ecclesiastes 12:12 Be warned, my son, of anything in addition to them. Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.


The written Word of God says NO OTHER GOSPEL, not even from an angel. The UB book claims their writings are from celestial beings.

 

[God's Truth]

We've already been over this here.

Paul's gospel is irrelevant if we are speaking exclusively of Jesus's gospel message anyways. It is unnecessary to conclude the two as the same.


pj

Paul is an Apostle of Jesus' gospel, the same gospel Jesus preached while on earth. The same gospel that John the baptizer proclaimed about Jesus while on earth.

 

[God's Truth]

The doing of God's will is not limited to a reading of the Bible, since the doing of God's will is wholly promoted in the UB and other religious texts, so your excluding other texts is pointless.

As far as your quote from John is concerned, Jesus teaching in the UB agrees since the doing of God's will is the way of life. Fulfilling the divine will is its own reward. There is no reason to believe that only by reading what was canonized in the NT is the only way to know God's will.

Since you haven't read the UB or familiarized yourself with its essential theology-philosophy...you cannot assume such things as you do because of ignorance.


pj

What don't you get about no other gospel?

The gospel of Jesus Christ came from those during the laying of the foundation of the gospel. The UB book did not come from a Jew during the laying of the foundation. The UB book came from celestial beings.

 

[God's Truth]

That's strange, because Christianity itself is a different gospel about the cross. Jesus taught the gospel of the kingdom of heaven......before the rise of self righteous Christians who have taken it upon themselves to judge everyone's salvation. Maybe God will consult with you?

The written Word of God is preserved for us in the Holy Bible.

God knew exactly who would write what was written, and what would make it into the finished book.

 

[Caino]

The written Word of God is preserved for us in the Holy Bible.

God knew exactly who would write what was written, and what would make it into the finished book.

That's the theory of bible book worship, but it's not true. It limits any further revelation that Gid has for man. More has been revealed in the wonderful Urantia Book.

 

[God's Truth]

That's the theory of bible book worship, but it's not true. It limits any further revelation that Gid has for man. More has been revealed in the wonderful Urantia Book.

Salvation comes from the Jews, not from celestial beings centuries later.

 

[God's Truth]

Caino,

Do what Jesus says in the New Testament of the book called the Holy Bible.

Then you will find out. Then talk to me about the UB book.

See John 17:7.

 

[Caino]

Caino,

Do what Jesus says in the New Testament of the book called the Holy Bible.

Then you will find out. Then talk to me about the UB book.

See John 17:7.

Do what Jesus says in the New Testament of the book called the Holy Bible.

Then you will find out.


Luke 9:50

49John answered and said, "Master, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name; and we tried to prevent him because he does not follow along with us." 50But Jesus said to him, "Do not hinder him; for he who is not against you is for you."​

Ok, Im ready to talk to you about the new revelation.

 

[Caino]

Salvation comes from the Jews, not from celestial beings centuries later.

Salvation comes from God, the Jews lost their way. Jesus said they hated him and therefore hated his Father also.

 

[Caino]

God does care about how many books we have.

Ecclesiastes 12:12 Be warned, my son, of anything in addition to them. Of making many books there is no end, and much study wearies the body.


The written Word of God says NO OTHER GOSPEL, not even from an angel. The UB book claims their writings are from celestial beings.

I can appreciate your concern and the sincerity of what you are trying to convey, but you do realize that Ecclesiastes was written before the 27 additional books of the New Testament were added to the OT right????

Just not sure you thought that out very well.

 

[Right Divider]

That's the theory of bible book worship, but it's not true. It limits any further revelation that Gid has for man. More has been revealed in the wonderful Urantia Book.

So you prefer Urantia Book worship... got it.

 

[Caino]

So you prefer Urantia Book worship... got it.

No, I prefer a personal relationship with God over making a graven image out of the writings of men about the doings of God. While the UB claims authoritative authorship, it does NOT claim to be the Word of God.

I understand that the bible books and others are all that we had for centuries, and those books don't claim perfection like the inerrancy crowd says they do. Neither does the UB.

"These papers differ from all previous revelations, for they are not the work of a single universe personality but a composite presentation by many beings. But no revelation short of the attainment of the Universal Father can ever be complete. All other celestial ministrations are no more than partial, transient, and practically adapted to local conditions in time and space. While such admissions as this may possibly detract from the immediate force and authority of all revelations, the time has arrived on Urantia when it is advisable to make such frank statements, even at the risk of weakening the future influence and authority of this, the most recent of the revelations of truth to the mortal races of Urantia." UB​

 

[Right Divider]

No, I prefer a personal relationship with God over making a graven image out of the writings of men about the doings of God. While the UB claims authoritative authorship, it does NOT claim to be the Word of God.

I understand that the bible books and others are all that we had for centuries, and those books don't claim perfection like the inerrancy crowd says they do. Neither does the UB.

By what criteria might we find authoritative documents? The book that we call the Bible has many validations of which the UB has none.

 

[Zeke]

By what criteria might we find authoritative documents? The book that we call the Bible has many validations of which the UB has none.

Not really, a little research outside the company stores reveals the biased assertions have no solid foundation, neither book can claim historical proof.