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That is exactly the passage that I think of when I see her posts.
ECT The Gospel Preached at Pentecost
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You, not I am like the Pharisees.
Firstly, Jesus says to do what the Pharisees say but do not do like they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
Who has not heard and understood that?
I practice what Jesus preaches.
So we see the Pharisees are more like you who go against obeying.
Next, the Pharisees did NOT get baptized with John's baptism of repentance---they did not repent of their sins. I repented of my sins and repent if I sin.
So how do you ever get that I am like the Pharisees when you are the one who does what they do.
So you'll change your proof text based upon your ignorance of king jimmy's mistranslation?
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Hi and REPENTANCE was always required for Jews and others that worshipped God and we see the same thing in Avys 26:20 and REPENTANCE rquires works to prove their REPENTANCE and that is why REPENTANCE is not REQUIRED in the Dispensation of the MYSTERY , Rom 16:25 and 26 !!
dan p
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The mystery is Jesus is the Lamb of God. The mystery is NOT "we no longer have to obey".
The mystery is;
Ephesians 3:6 New International Version (NIV)
6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.
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The mystery is that JESUS DIED for ALL MEN, for the SINS of the WORLD.
He is the Lamb of God.
Hi and I will write what Rom 8:17 , that we are Joint-heirs with Christ , which leaves out Israel !!
But does not mean that Jews , will not be saved as 2 Cor 3:16 and are in the B O C as Gal 3:28 says !!
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There is a kind of mystery to that, sure, but that is not the equation of Eph 3:6. All the weight of 3:6 falls on 'through the Gospel' and the things that set on that are the co-s (3 of them).
Judaism thought those things would happen through the Law.
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Speak what the Bible says. What are the co-s? I know the Bible but I do not always know the special codes for all the many false doctrines out there.
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Get to know the text better:
co-heirs
co-members
co-sharers
I was not being misleading. I said that to see if you actually pay attention to the text. Other ideas are blasting 24-7 at us to have it mean something else.
Do you know how to diagram a sentence? Send me yours for v6
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I know the text.
I know you were up to something, you write like that a lot, and I don't like game playing. You said the co-s, is that even proper spelling? Why not the co's? Why not spell out the words?
See, I have no idea what you are talking about. What other ideas? What is blasting 24-7?
I'm here to discuss the Bible and don't know why you are so vague when you reply to me.
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I said, "The mystery is that JESUS DIED for ALL MEN, for the SINS of the WORLD.
He is the Lamb of God."
You said, "There is kind of a mystery to that."
That is the mystery. Jesus is the Lamb of God and all people get saved through him.
6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.
turbosixx
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I would suggest to you it was interrupted.
When Peter tells them they crucified Jesus, they stopped him and asked him a question.
2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified.”
37 Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brethren, what shall we do?”
After he gives them the answer, he continues.
2:40 And with many other words he solemnly testified and kept on exhorting them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation!”
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Ephesians 1:9 when He made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose
Ephesians 1:10 for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him.
Ephesians 1:10 for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him.
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'Government' may be OK, so long as you keep detached from this world--a government on this world. More important, is that the context says this is already true in this age as well as the next.
I hope RD is viewing because I would add this to the Jn 4 and Heb 9 about those things which are overlapping now and will be totally true in the future in a way that cannot happen now. I had forgot this one.
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Thanks, I am glad I did something right, seriously.
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Was 'government' your idea or a translation? 'economia' is usually a dispensation, an arrangement, a management, a way of running a household...
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Ephesians 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.
John 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself."
The Gentiles were once far off from God, but now brought near through the gospel.
Acts 2:39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off--for all whom the Lord our God will call."
Ephesians 2:17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near.
Acts 13:47 For this is what the Lord has commanded us: "'I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.'"
Acts 26:23 that the Messiah would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would bring the message of light to his own people and to the Gentiles."
John 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself."
The Gentiles were once far off from God, but now brought near through the gospel.
Acts 2:39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off--for all whom the Lord our God will call."
Ephesians 2:17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near.
Acts 13:47 For this is what the Lord has commanded us: "'I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.'"
Acts 26:23 that the Messiah would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would bring the message of light to his own people and to the Gentiles."