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Look at the ugliness in some people's hearts:
The Gospel in Romans 10 June 14th, 2015 11:12 AM Nick M repent you heathen
The Gospel in Romans 10 June 14th, 2015 11:12 AM Nick M repent you heathen
ECT The Gospel in Romans 10
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People get baptized for Jesus. Nowhere in the Bible are we told to get baptized for other people.
Some people do not need to make up stuff as they go; they just believe in what someone else made up.
Lol; now that was funny.
I know; you did not mean it to be funny.
It's its' recurrent ignorance that makes its so...
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If Jesus did not rise, then he is dead, and so is the body of Christ, the body of Christ for whom we are being baptized unto. If they are all dead, then why do people get baptized for the dead?
That is what I believe the scripture says. What do you believe? You believe that some people were doing things against Paul by making their own doctrine of baptism for the dead? Are you a Mormon? So Paul does not rebuke the Mormon type of reasoning he just uses it as a teaching tool?
That is what I believe the scripture says. What do you believe? You believe that some people were doing things against Paul by making their own doctrine of baptism for the dead? Are you a Mormon? So Paul does not rebuke the Mormon type of reasoning he just uses it as a teaching tool?
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I could not care less what you think is funny. I only care about God the Father and Jesus Christ.
There is nothing funny about God and His Truth.
musterion
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Not anymore. One is either baptized into Christ, or he is not saved.
Christendom's various and contradictory "baptisms for Jesus" are superfluous and pointless at best, part of works righteousness at worst.
musterion
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I do not know but I wonder if it ties in with receiving the grace of God, but in vain? That is, grace is acknowledged but is not truly received...not really believed and trusted...leading to having an appearance of righteousness but denying the very (and only) power thereof, which power is received only through believing the Gospel. Wouldn't such seem to tie into the overall context of Israel's failure? Just a thought.
When you speak of group, of course several individuals are included. That's what a group is --- several individuals rather than a single individual.
"They" is referring to all in a group of individuals, not a singular person.
Ummm, Christ is singular because it is of one individual.
"Dead" and "them" are plural because it is of a group.
But let me ask you this .... after considering both the context and the language, are you agreeing with GT that the dead and them (in some manuscripts) in the final part of 1 Corinthians 15:29 KJV is speaking of only a single individual rather than a group of individuals?
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If you have not entered the Covenant, the contract, exactly as specified, then you have not entered the Covenant.
Jesus came and gave the conditions of the Covenant. If you do not do what it says, then you are not saved.
musterion
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There was no covenant made with any Gentile, so Gentiles as Gentiles cannot enter into any covenant God made with Israel. Benefit from its blessings? Yes, purely and solely by grace -- but be a legitimate party to the covenant? No. That was Israel's place alone.
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You are badly mistaken. Jesus' blood shed on the cross is the blood of the Covenant.
musterion
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Show from Scripture an explicit statement where God cut any covenant with Gentiles apart from, and in spite of, national Israel.
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You are trying to twist it up.
Reword what you just asked.
There is NOT a covenant apart from ANYONE.
I see what you are trying to do and it will not work with me.
LOL!
Look at the hypocrite that also leaves neg reps with unflattering comments - YOU.
Yes, we know, you only consider it ugly when others do it.
musterion
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No. I simply asked you to substantiate what you said, but you know you can't. You're teaching as Scripture the traditions of men.
Jerry Shugart
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That does not speak of the source of the blessing, that the believer is "justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Ro.3:24).
This verse is about the fact that we are redeemed by the blood of the Lord Jesus:
"Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ" (1 Pet.1:18-13).
The verse which you quote here says nothing about the source of that blessing:
The truth concerning the source of the blessing which believers receive is notfound in the tenth chapter of Romans. How anyone can forget the part of the gospel which declares that Christ died for our sins is beyond me!
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I do not believe you.
There is only one gospel, and that same one and only gospel given first to the Jews was then given to Gentiles, Greeks, and everyone else.
Show one scripture that says there is another gospel.
Show it now or repent.
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That is not true.
glorydaz
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I don't think so. He pointed out the error in the first three verses, believing unto righteousness means exactly that. Righteousness isn't given according our way of thinking, but according to what God sees.
Acts 15:8-10
And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
But, I may be misunderstanding what you're saying here, and if I am just :carryon:
musterion
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Where does Paul say God made a covenant with Gentiles during this dispensation of grace? That's your claim...support it or withdraw it.