the futurists

[chrysostom]

I agree ... does that make me a futurist?

no

 

[fzappa13]

no

Well, good ... because I don't like it when people call me names.

I mean besides Matt.

 

[fzappa13]

... or Mateo.

 

[HisServant]

the futurists are like the jews
both are looking into the future
the jews are looking for the messiah
and
they will know Him when they see Him
you would think a reasonable jew could look back
and
see that it must have been Jesus
so
you futurists might take some time to look at what you have missed
the spiritualists are no better
just like the futurists
the future can be anything they want it to be

back to
the apocalypse

Well... RCCers are futurists also. So be careful in your nomenclature.

 

[chrysostom]

Well... RCCers are futurists also. So be careful in your nomenclature.

the church has no official position on the apocalypse
-but
-preterism is the most common amongst catholics
-I am an historicist
-the vast majority of events can be found in history

 

[Totton Linnet]

My own humble view is those events in history which appear to be the fulfilment of prophecy are pictures and shadows of the main events yet to come....those events will be much greater and final in their issue.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

the church has no official position on the apocalypse

:chuckle:

Do you not find that odd?

Did not Peter have an official position on it?

Was the official position too unimportant to pass along in apostolic succession?

These are valid questions, which you will never answer.

 

[chrysostom]

:chuckle:

Do you not find that odd?

Did not Peter have an official position on it?

Was the official position too unimportant to pass along in apostolic succession?

These are valid questions, which you will never answer.

I don't think peter knew what many of the details were
-like who the antichrist would be
-or
-what the second beast would be
-all that was in the future
-exactly where you are looking
-keep watching

 

[fzappa13]

My own humble view is those events in history which appear to be the fulfilment of prophecy are pictures and shadows of the main events yet to come....those events will be much greater and final in their issue.

... or maybe better said, history is prophecy. "The thing that hath been it is that which shall be" and all that.

 

[chrysostom]

... or maybe better said, history is prophecy. "The thing that hath been it is that which shall be" and all that.

some history was prophecy
-if
-you don't ignore it

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

some history was prophecy
-if
-you don't ignore it

Why do you ignore many details within prophecy in order to shoe horn it into history?

 

[fzappa13]

opcorn:

 

[chrysostom]

stp is a futurist
-he goes from the ot to future
-he stumbled on paul

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

stp is a futurist
-he goes from the ot to future
-he stumbled on paul

If history does not fit, do not force it.
Why would you do such a thing?

Are you dishonest?

 

[steko]

stp is a futurist
-he goes from the ot to future
-he stumbled on paul

Does the Bible presently hold any event as being future?

 

[chrysostom]

Does the Bible presently hold any event as being future?

the second coming

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

the second coming

Futurist.

Why can't you look into history and find an event to shoe horn the 2nd coming into?

Preterists are able to do it.

 

[steko]

the second coming

And what did the prophets say would accompany the second coming?

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

And what did the prophets say would accompany the second coming?

:up:

All of the stuff chrys has placed in the past via harebrained theories.
He is inconsistent.

 

[fzappa13]

some history was prophecy
-if
-you don't ignore it

All Biblical history is prophecy.