PlastikBuddha
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ID has failed to provide even a single example of irreducible complexity. That's what I'm sayiong- science is working, and in a roundabout way, ID helps further the cause of evolution by pointing out gaps in our understanding. People rush to fill those gaps and science gains by it. The flagellum, the blood clotting cascade. The argument is basically that these systems are so intricate that there couldn't possibly be any way for them to have come about naturally. When a way is discovered they just move the bar a little and start over again. It's not science, but it does help light a fire under the scientific community.There are not many examples of IC failing although I was just assuming it for the sake of argument. What examples did you have in mind? Hope you don't mind me asking. As long as science is alive and working...
Christians love science as it was given to us by our Creator. I see no reason for us to hold it for different reasons other than the fact that God gave it to us for investigation of His majesty. Doesn't Darwin come to mind? They've erred many times in arguments such as vestigial organs, junk DNA, wrong mechanisms, fossil record etc. Time and again it is still falling and collapsing but does this necessary make it not science? Should we discard science because people have erred so many times? Even Albert Einstein's theory is incomplete and has it's share of problems. We should go with the theory that is more logical and fits with the data. So far, the flagellum fits perfectly with ID and still stands today. It is perfectly testable since design can be detected...I suppose the question would be whether they really did detect it.
Design has never been detected. What would design look like? How would it differ from an evolved structure? The theory of evolution has not failed. It has... evolved. ID has not changed- and can't change because its central tenant is completely at odds with science itself. The central statement of evolution, that life as we see it has descended from an ancient common ancestor has remained unchanged. Only the processes surrounding those changes have been revised as our understanding grows.