Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave.
The earth is flat and we never went to the moon--Part II
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You need to prove that it doesn't. You're the one bringing the challenge to the accepted standard, the onus is ON YOU to provide evidence for your challenge.
Can't prove a negative. If it's such a simple thing that even a child can understand you should have no trouble doing it. Prove the atmosphere moves with the earth.
--Dave
You are asserting that the atmosphere is separate from the earth.
That's not a negative.
The onus is still on you.
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Since you will not understand that the earth is moving... there is no point.
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That the earth is moving? We've given you proof, but you cannot understand it.
Everything, that is a solid, on and above the earth that moves, moves through the atmosphere.
The atmosphere does not move with the things that move on or above the earth.
The earth itself is a solid and if it is spinning then it would only be reasonable that it would be consistent with everything else that moves and move through the atmosphere and the atmosphere would not move with it.
Our experience and observation is that the earth is not spinning or moving.
--Dave
The atmosphere does not move with the things that move on or above the earth.
The earth itself is a solid and if it is spinning then it would only be reasonable that it would be consistent with everything else that moves and move through the atmosphere and the atmosphere would not move with it.
Our experience and observation is that the earth is not spinning or moving.
--Dave
I can easily understand what you're saying, we just don't experience or observe a moving earth. A moving earth is inconsistent with everything else we see and observe moving through the atmosphere without the atmosphere moving with it.
--Dave
Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave.
So are you also asserting that the oceans are part of the earth as well? Water isn't a solid.
It is.
No, Dave. Now you're contradicting yourself. Things that move through the atmosphere are moving RELATIVE TO THE EARTH. The earth does not move relative to itself.
Argument from repetition.
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It is.
Things that are moving through the atmosphere are moving over a "motionless" earth.
This is what we all see and experience.
--Dave
NO, DAVE, WATER IS NOT A SOLID!
ICE is a solid. Water is a liquid.
The earth is motionless relative to itself, but it is NOT MOTIONLESS relative to the sun or stars or planets. Things that move in the atmosphere see the earth as motionless, but that doesn't change the fact that the earth is moving in relation to other things.
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You're using the earth as a reference point to determine if the earth is motionless. But objects in space are motionless relative to themselves.
It's literal confirmation bias.
Never said water was a solid.
The earth is either in motion or it's not. Relativity has nothing to do with it.
"Objects in space are motionless relative to themselves", is a meaningless self contradicting statement.
--Dave
YES YOU DID.
The earth is in motion relative to everything else but itself.
We're talking about relative motion, Dave, by definition, that's "relativity."
What we are not talking about, and I would agree with you on, is the "theory of relativity."
But yes, Dave, relativity is exactly what we're talking about.
Relative to the earth, the earth is stationary.
Relative to the sun, the earth is orbiting once per year and spinning once per day.
Relative to the earth, the sun and everything else is moving.
Saying it doesn't make it so, David.
YES YOU DID.
The earth is in motion relative to everything else but itself.
We're talking about relative motion, Dave, by definition, that's "relativity."
What we are not talking about, and I would agree with you on, is the "theory of relativity."
But yes, Dave, relativity is exactly what we're talking about.
Relative to the earth, the earth is stationary.
Relative to the sun, the earth is orbiting once per year and spinning once per day.
Relative to the earth, the sun and everything else is moving.
Saying it doesn't make it so, David.
Earth is a solid with water on it's surface.
The earth, like anything else, either moves or not, not because something else is moving or not.
Relativity is an irrational theory.
"The Relativity Fraud"
In this video every so called proof of relativity is shown to be false. For example,the twin clocks paradox presumes two clocks moving in different directions, or one moving away from the other one, will move at different speeds. But in fact, not theory, clocks set for the same time in the same place will not move faster or slower than the other as one moves away from the other one.
--Dave
DAVE!
We are talking about simple relativity. Like two cars travelling at a velocity RELATTIVE to each other. We are not, I repeat not, talking about Einsteins theory of relativity.
This has already been pointed out to you in this thread. Please read what others bother to post.
Thank you.
So which atoms/molecules in solid form make up the earth, Dave?
This is faulty logic.
You have been shown stellar parallax, which shows the earth to be moving relative to distant stars, and the orbits of the planets in our solar system is INEXPLICABLE unless the sun is the center of our solar system.
Saying it doesn't make it so.
NO ONE is watching your videos, Dave, because every single one of them so far has been made by someone who has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
That motion affects clocks has been proven.
So what's your point?
Again, Dave, SAYING IT DOESN'T MAKE IT SO.
But again, how is this relevant to whether the earth moves?
I know what this thread is about because I started it so please pay attention to what I post.
--Dave
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