philosophizer
New member
I didn't have time. Maybe this weekend. Or maybe I'll throw together something temporary this afternoon.
The death penalty in the USA
- Thread starter Nathon Detroit
- Start date
wholearmor
Member
It's stuck in his nose like a tongue to a frozen railing!
wholearmor
Member
He should since he and I think alike!
wholearmor
Member
:chuckle:
wholearmor
Member
It was suggested my LightSon so technically it's LightSon's thread, not Knights. Why am I saying all this? I'm not accountable to you!
Biblical death penalty required two or more eye witnesses. 90% of our court cases are based upon circumstantial evidence and would never get to court under Biblical rules.
For example, the OJ Simpson case could not be tried. Under Biblical rules the community would offer sacrifice to atone for his wife's death - the two goat sacrifice?
We have no way of knowing how OT judges used the rules because we have no documentation. Post-destruction rabbinical Judaism did everything possible to avoid a death sentence.
For example, two people are seen going into a building. One person is seen leaving. An hour later a dead body is found in the building. Under rabbinical law there are no eye witnesses to the murder and no one could be charged.
For example, the OJ Simpson case could not be tried. Under Biblical rules the community would offer sacrifice to atone for his wife's death - the two goat sacrifice?
We have no way of knowing how OT judges used the rules because we have no documentation. Post-destruction rabbinical Judaism did everything possible to avoid a death sentence.
For example, two people are seen going into a building. One person is seen leaving. An hour later a dead body is found in the building. Under rabbinical law there are no eye witnesses to the murder and no one could be charged.
billwald,
A witness does not have to be eye-witnesses.
wit·ness n.
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
God knows that a typical criminal does not have the courtesy to commit his crimes when there are other people around.
Consider the following passage:
Please reconsider.
A witness does not have to be eye-witnesses.
wit·ness n.
- a. One who can give a firsthand account of something seen, heard, or experienced: a witness to the accident.
b. One who furnishes evidence.
- Something that serves as evidence; a sign.
- Law.
a. One who is called on to testify before a court.
b. One who is called on to be present at a transaction in order to attest to what takes place.
c. One who signs one's name to a document for the purpose of attesting to its authenticity. - An attestation to a fact, statement, or event; testimony.
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
God knows that a typical criminal does not have the courtesy to commit his crimes when there are other people around.
Consider the following passage:
According to your reasoning the woman is the only witness in such a case, and therefore the man cannot be charged. But God says that the rapist shall be put to death, because evidence does not have to be eye-witness testimony.
Please reconsider.
Last edited:
brother Willi
New member
Please reconsider
Kobie Bryant
What if the woman is lying?
Kobie Bryant
What if the woman is lying?
That should be determined based on the evidence, which is not exclusively eye-witness testimony. That was my point, not that the woman's testimony alone is sufficient.
P.S. God says that if you bear false witness in a capital case (such as rape), that it is a capital crime.
(Adultery should be a capital crime, too. If these crimes were enforced the way God says they should be, Kobe probably wouldn't have gotten himself into this mess.)
P.S. God says that if you bear false witness in a capital case (such as rape), that it is a capital crime.
(Adultery should be a capital crime, too. If these crimes were enforced the way God says they should be, Kobe probably wouldn't have gotten himself into this mess.)
Turbo, if you truly believe that a strict theocracy is a good idea, I would suggest that you take a look at Iran, or Afghanistan under the Taliban.
And why stop at adultery? Surely drinking or even jaywalking costs society far more each year in terms of needless deaths, wasted lives, etc..
wholearmor
Member
All theocracies are not created equal.