the church

[KingdomRose]

Catholics certainly think for themselves. They simply don't think BY themselves, but pay heed to the apostolic testimony of Christ's one historic Church. Big difference.

Well, I can say that I think BY myself, and what I think happens to run in the same channels as what the WT says. Too bad you can't think BY yourself. How are you ever going to really know what the truth is if you just take the Vatican's word for it?

 

[KingdomRose]

yes

Is the Holy Spirit God?

 

[chrysostom]

Well, I can say that I think BY myself, and what I think happens to run in the same channels as what the WT says. Too bad you can't think BY yourself. How are you ever going to really know what the truth is if you just take the Vatican's word for it?

so what do you believe?

 

[chrysostom]

Is the Holy Spirit God?

yes

 

[KingdomRose]

how long did you stay?

There are Jehovah's Witnesses in every land, and though they are a small number in Muslim lands, they continue to go from house to house and find interested people.

 

[chrysostom]

There are Jehovah's Witnesses in every land, and though they are a small number in Muslim lands, they continue to go from house to house and find interested people.

what do you teach?
-Jesus is not God?
-they already believe that

 

[KingdomRose]

Jesus said
-you will be known by your fruit

Precisely. And yet neither you nor Cruciform will give an answer as to why it seems to the world, for the last 2,000 years, that the RCC perpetrated the Crusades, the Inquisition, and a murderous, diabolical papacy with people like Rodrigo Borgia.

 

[KingdomRose]

are you talking about Jesus?

No. The pope.

 

[chrysostom]

Precisely. And yet neither you nor Cruciform will give an answer as to why it seems to the world, for the last 2,000 years, that the RCC perpetrated the Crusades, the Inquisition, and a murderous, diabolical papacy with people like Rodrigo Borgia.

thanks to the church
-you are not reading the koran today

 

[chrysostom]

No. The pope.

the pope does not makes himself out to be God
-but
-Jesus did

 

[KingdomRose]

tell us what you believe
-we know who you are against

What I believe:

(1) That there is much in the Bible that the churches are not teaching their people.

(2) That Jesus gave up his human life on Earth so that mankind could regain eternal life on Earth. (Romans 5:19; I Corinthians 15:22, 45)

(3) That God is Jehovah, and His Son is Jesus Christ. (Psalm 83:18, KJV; Luke 1:32)

(4) That God's original purpose for the earth has not changed. (Genesis 1:28, 2:15; Isaiah 45:18)

(5) That Jesus will rule over the earth one day soon, having eliminated all man-made governments. (Isaiah 9:6,7; Isaiah 11:1-9; Daniel 2:44; Revelation [Apocalypse] 20:4,5)

(6) The earth is our intended eternal home, and we can enjoy the benefits of life in a paradise earth forever. (Psalm 37:9,10,29; Psalm 46:8,9; Psalm 72:7,8,16; Isaiah 11:6-9; Isaiah 35:5,6; Isaiah 65:21-25; John 5:28)

 

[chrysostom]

(5) That Jesus will rule over the earth one day soon, having eliminated all man-made governments. (Isaiah 9:6,7; Isaiah 11:1-9; Daniel 2:44; Revelation [Apocalypse] 20:4,5)

where does it say
-Jesus will rule over the earth?

 

[KingdomRose]

Why did you remain silent when these atrocities took place?

Because the Crusades and the Inquisition happened a few years before I was born. Indeed, even WWII was before I was born, so I missed all the heart-wrenching deeds and mis-deeds of the Church (such as remaining silent when millions of Jews and other people were being exterminated; signing an agreement with Hitler to basically back each other up---the Concordat, signed by Pope Pius XII; and so many other things).

Throughout history, though, up to the present day, Jehovah's people have spoken out. I once or twice wrote a letter myself (as did many JWs) to the president of Malawi because of the atrocities there. The RCC didn't do anything about the situation, as it didn't during the Tutsi and Hutu slaughter within the last 20 years in Africa, and during every other slaughter that has been going on over there and in the Balkans and practically everywhere else on Earth.

 

[KingdomRose]

no
-you will be held responsible for who you decide to follow

EXACTLY. That's why it's important to speak out and warn people who blindly accept the demons' apparitions as Mary or some saint or other.

 

[KingdomRose]

most of them voted against both

No, I don't think they did.

 

[chrysostom]

No, I don't think they did.

I know they did

 

[chrysostom]

EXACTLY. That's why it's important to speak out and warn people who blindly accept the demons' apparitions as Mary or some saint or other.

these are good people
-and
-you are blind to associate them with the devil

 

[KingdomRose]

yes

OK. I asked you individually if the Father, Jesus and the H.S. was God. In each case you said "yes." How many persons did you say were God? The Father = God, the Son = God, the H.S. = God. THREEpersons, EACH of which is God.

To worship THREE persons as God is POLYTHEISTIC. (Poly = more than one. Tri = three.)

 

[KingdomRose]

where does it say
-Jesus will rule over the earth?

I just gave you the scriptural citations, or, the locations that you could find that answer.

 

[chrysostom]

OK. I asked you individually if the Father, Jesus and the H.S. was God. In each case you said "yes." How many persons did you say were God? The Father = God, the Son = God, the H.S. = God. THREEpersons, EACH of which is God.

To worship THREE persons as God is POLYTHEISTIC. (Poly = more than one. Tri = three.)

there are three persons in one God
-just as there are three persons in one family
-we are made in Their Image