The "Church" at Acts 2 is NOT the Body of Christ
- Thread starter Jerry Shugart
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The Father, as HaNavi Yirmeyahu says He desires to be called, (Jeremiah 3:4).
In fact you cannot be placed among His sons if you do not do so, (Jeremiah 3:19).
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Looky, another legal hoop!
why do you quote Ephesian's comment? They are not Christians yet.
That is what it says and if the Master Teacher Yeshua does it then it is perfectly fine with me.
Or are you another one like Jerry Shugart who says that "Jesus is JHWH"?
In fact this is really a sad thing to hear you say.
Jeremiah 3:19
19 But I said, How would I put you among the sons and give you a pleasant land, a splendid inheritance of the hosts of nations? And I said, Call Me, "my Father", and do not turn away from Me.
And you say calling our heavenly Father, "my Father", is a legal hoop?
That's what trinity believers believe.
The majority of Trinitarians would not agree with you on that.
I don't know any Trinitarian believe YAWH is Father, not Jesus.
Jer 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD[YHVH], that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he[the Branch] shall be called, THE LORD[YHVH] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
No, but it sounds like you are.
Right, but they do not believe that "Jesus is the Father", (who is YHWH), which is what Jerry Shugart is saying whether he knows it or not whenever he says that "Jesus is JHWH", or as one of his thread titles says, "Jesus is Jehovah". There are enough places where scripture clearly states that YHWH is the Father. What people like Jerry are doing is essentially demoting the Father so that they may elevate Jesus to equality status with the Father.
[MENTION=12870]steko[/MENTION]...
She's saying it but not understanding what she's saying.
Like... in... Philippians 2:6?
Jeremiah 23:6 ESV
6 In his days Judah will be saved, and Israel will dwell securely. And this is the name by which he will be called: ‘The LORD is our righteousness.’
Jeremiah 23:6 ERV
6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The LORD is our righteousness.
Jeremiah 23:6 JPS Tanakh 1917
6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely; and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The LORD is our righteousness.
And the same exact phrase is found later concerning Yerushalem as follows:
Jeremiah 33:16 ESV
16 In those days Judah will be saved, and Jerusalem will dwell securely. And this is the name by which it will be called: ‘The LORD is our righteousness.’
Jeremiah 33:16 ERV
16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name whereby she shall be called, The LORD is our righteousness.
Jeremiah 33:16 JPS Tanakh 1917
16 In those days shall Judah be saved, And Jerusalem shall dwell safely; And this is the name whereby she shall be called, The LORD is our righteousness.
Read the Psalms, (and believe them).
The Father, as HaNavi Yirmeyahu says He desires to be called, (Jeremiah 3:4).
In fact you cannot be placed among His sons if you do not do so, (Jeremiah 3:19).
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Daqq who is talking in these verses and what are there literal meanings in scholarly exegesis?
Isaiah 43:3, 45:21; Hos 13:4
Exodus 20:1-3
1 And Elohim spoke all these words, saying:
2 I am YHWH your Elohim, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3 You shall have no other Elohim against My face.
Literally, "against My face", which means "equal to" or "beside", (as equal in status or standing).
And this "legal hoop", (lol), includes all the little elohim also, O ye elohim . . . :chuckle:
So...the fact that Jerusalem shall be called 'the LORD is our righteousness cancels out the fact that ;the Branch' shall be called 'the LORD our righteousness'. Huh?
Read the Psalms, (and believe them).
I have and do as a believer for over 37 years.