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Epoisses

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What else do you got besides your little insults to me and telling everyone they don't have to obey Jesus?

Your obedience is filthy rags and the product of a proud and unconverted heart. You have the old covenant spirit 'of all that the Lord has spoken we will do and be obedient'. This obedience is what led to the crucifixion of Christ.
 

Robert Pate

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There is none who are righteous and have not ever sinned.

You don't know that scriptures well enough.

Paul was explaining how ALL have sinned and fall short, he was explaining about how Jews are sinners too like the Gentiles.

That doesn't mean we do not have to repent of those sins.

Where does it say, "There is none righteous who have not ever sinned?" You have changed God's word.

And then Paul said, "For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23.

Are you going to change that one also?
 

God's Truth

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Your obedience is filthy rags and the product of a proud and unconverted heart. You have the old covenant spirit 'of all that the Lord has spoken we will do and be obedient'. This obedience is what led to the crucifixion of Christ.

You prove you were never taught by the Holy Spirit. You were taught by men who had no understanding.

The filthy rag scripture is about the blood sacrifices the people had to give to God, but the people were not really sorry for their sins when they gave the sin sacrifices, so it made their blood offerings as filthy rags. You preach against obeying Jesus' words.
 

God's Truth

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Where does it say, "There is none righteous who have not ever sinned?" You have changed God's word.

And then Paul said, "For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God" Romans 3:23.

Are you going to change that one also?

You don't even know that Paul was quoting old testament scriptures when he said that.

Don't try to be a teacher because you don't know the scriptures.
 

Epoisses

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You prove you were never taught by the Holy Spirit. You were taught by men who had no understanding.

The filthy rag scripture is about the blood sacrifices the people had to give to God, but the people were not really sorry for their sins when they gave the sin sacrifices, so it made their blood offerings as filthy rags. You preach against obeying Jesus' words.

Promise-keeping works righteousness that is the death sentence of faith and trust. The Roman centurion didn't do anything except take Jesus at his word. He trusted God and was blessed forever.
 

God's Truth

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Promise-keeping works righteousness that is the death sentence of faith and trust. The Roman centurion didn't do anything except take Jesus at his word. He trusted God and was blessed forever.

Obedience is NOT the death of faith! Lack of obedience is DEAD FAITH. You got it twisted.
 

Robert Pate

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You don't even know that Paul was quoting old testament scriptures when he said that.

Don't try to be a teacher because you don't know the scriptures.

I know the scriptures far better than you do. You think that you can please God by your obedience. You are going to find out that is not possible.
 

God's Truth

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I know the scriptures far better than you do. You think that you can please God by your obedience. You are going to find out that is not possible.

You sound just like a worker from Satan. Tell me who but Satan would be behind telling someone it is wrong to please God by obedience?

Colossians 1:10
so that you may walk in a manner worthy of the Lord and may please Him in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of God,
 

Epoisses

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God doesn't send people to hell for obeying Him.

Get yourself out of the trap of the devil.

You can do it by repenting.

Everything in the old covenant had to be worked for and physically obeyed.

Everything in the new covenant is a gift from repentance to faith and love.
 

God's Truth

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Everything in the old covenant had to be worked for and physically obeyed.

Everything in the new covenant is a gift from repentance to faith and love.

Firstly, I am speaking about the NEW COVENANT.

Secondly, the gift is the Holy Spirit and the cleaning we receive.

Where do you ever get that we do not have to obey?

Who taught you the that lie from the pit of hell?
 

Epoisses

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Firstly, I am speaking about the NEW COVENANT.

Secondly, the gift is the Holy Spirit and the cleaning we receive.

Where do you ever get that we do not have to obey?

Who taught you the that lie from the pit of hell?

You've never been under the new covenant not even for one minute. The Holy Spirit doesn't play nice with those who trust in the flesh.
 

God's Truth

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You've never been under the new covenant not even for one minute. The Holy Spirit doesn't play nice with those who trust in the flesh.

If you are not in the new covenant you are not saved.

Jesus says plainly that those who obey his commands will have eternal life.
 

God's Truth

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Unless we eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, we have no life in us. Jesus tells us the truth, if anyone obeys his word, he will never see death, John 8:51.
 

Epoisses

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If you are not in the new covenant you are not saved.

Jesus says plainly that those who obey his commands will have eternal life.

Your fleshly obedience is sin. Most people today are law-abiding citizens but they're still lost and heading to hell.
 

God's Truth

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2 John 1:6
And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love.

1 John 2:3 And by this we may know that we know Him--if we obey His commands.
 

Epoisses

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Give the scripture for that lie.

We have to BELIEVE AND OBEY.

Obey what - the old law? That's what it always comes down to with you people. Gentiles were never required to keep the law from Genesis to Revelation. Your law is to put all your trust in Christ and nothing in yourself because you're a sinner and can't perform one good deed.
 
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