THE APOSTLES DID NOT PREACH THE SAME GOSPEL

bibleverse2

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First of all you are right in identifying the gospel for our justification unto eternal life in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. This is all that has to be believed to be saved.

Amen, just as Jesus Christ Himself had preached (Luke 24:46-47).

Christ has accomplished a complete salvation not an initial salvation.

Note that the ideas of initial salvation and ultimate salvation do not have to be explicitly referred to in the Bible as "initial salvation" and "ultimate salvation" for them to be true and supported by the Bible, just as, for example, the ideas of the unity of God and the Trinity do not have to be explicitly referred to in the Bible as "the unity" and "the Trinity" for them to be true and supported by the Bible (John 10:30, John 1:1,14, Isaiah 45:5, Matthew 28:19, Acts 5:3-4).

For in the Bible, the difference between initial salvation and ultimate salvation is that initial salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ without any works at all on our part (Romans 4:1-5, Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9), while other passages show that Christians must have both faith and continued works of faith (1 Thessalonians 1:3, Galatians 5:6b, Titus 3:8) (not works of the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law), if they are to obtain ultimate salvation (Romans 2:6-8, James 2:24, Matthew 7:21, Matthew 25:26,30, Philippians 2:12b, Philippians 3:11-14; 2 Corinthians 5:9, Hebrews 5:9, Hebrews 6:10-12; 2 Peter 1:10-11, John 15:2a; 1 John 2:17b). For Christians must continue to do righteous deeds if they are to continue to be righteous (1 John 3:7, James 2:24,26). And there is no assurance that Christians will choose to do that, instead of wrongly employing their free will to become utterly lazy without repentance, to the ultimate loss of their salvation (Matthew 25:26,30, John 15:2a).

Also, in the Bible, the difference between initial salvation and ultimate salvation is that initial salvation is the salvation which Christians have now (Ephesians 2:5), in their mortal bodies, while ultimate salvation is the salvation ready to be revealed in the last time (1 Peter 1:5), and which is always drawing nearer (Romans 13:11), that salvation which Christians are still hoping for (1 Thessalonians 5:8, Romans 8:23-25, Mark 10:30), and which Jesus Christ will bring to obedient Christians at His future, Second Coming (Hebrews 9:28, Hebrews 5:9), when He will resurrect (if dead) or change (if alive) their mortal physical bodies into immortal physical bodies just like the immortal physical body which Jesus obtained at His resurrection on the third day after His death (Luke 24:39,46; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4,21-23,51-53, Philippians 3:21, Romans 8:23-25, Philippians 3:11-14).

Hebrews 3:6,12,14 is addressed to Jews who are under the law and covenant and must endure to the end to be saved to enter the Davidic kingdom on earth.

Note that the book of Hebrews is about the Church (Hebrews 2:12, Hebrews 12:23), the body of Jesus Christ (Hebrews 13:3, cf. 1 Corinthians 12:25-27).

That's why the book of Hebrews says that the BOC is not under the Mosaic law and covenant (Hebrews 7:18-19, Hebrews 8:6-7).

Colossians 1:23 is saying that we need to continue in the faith to be holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight. This is not saying we lose salvation this is talking about our conduct being holy before God and being conformed to the image of Christ.

Note that the one is required for the other, ultimately (Romans 2:6-8).

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Romans 2:6-8 is speaking of the judgment of God....this is how he will judge those who have not placed faith in Christ.

Note that it is also how He will judge real Christians (2 Corinthians 5:10-11).

1 Thessalonians 1:3 does not even say if you don't do all this you are going to hell....Paul is giving thanks for their labours in God's sight.

But note that Christian labours are required in order to be ultimately accepted by Jesus (2 Corinthians 5:9).

Hebrews 10:26-29 is addressed to Jews under the covenant and undergoing persecution and considering reverting back to the Levitical sacrifices. . .

Note again that the book of Hebrews is addressed to the Church (Hebrews 2:12, Hebrews 12:23), the body of Jesus Christ (Hebrews 13:3, cf. 1 Corinthians 12:25-27).

Also, regarding Hebrews 10:26-29, see post #174 above.

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Mark 16:16 The twelve were told to go into all the world and preach the gospel of the kingdom and to be saved to enter into the Davidic kingdom on earth. This is not the commission of the church today it was to the twelve.

Note that it is (Acts 14:22)
 

bibleverse2

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Romans 6:3-11 is baptism into Christ by the Spirit and those in Christ are to reckon themselves dead unto sin. This is not being baptized in water and is not the baptism of Mark 16:16 nor John's baptism, both of which were for Israel to be cleansed from sin to enter the kingdom.

Actually, Romans 6:3-11 is about water baptism. And after Christians are figuratively buried with Jesus Christ in water-immersion (burial) baptism (Romans 6:3-4), they still must actually "walk" in newness of life (Romans 6:4), performing Christ's pure religion (James 1:27, Galatians 6:2).

That is, in order to be saved ultimately, Christians must get water-immersion (burial) baptized into Jesus Christ's death for our sins (Mark 16:16; 1 Peter 3:21, Romans 6:3-11, Colossians 2:12, Galatians 3:27, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16). If people believe with all of their heart that Jesus Christ is the human/divine Son of God (Acts 8:37), then they can get baptized anywhere there is water (Acts 8:36) into which they can be fully-immersed (buried) (Romans 6:3-11, Colossians 2:12). They need to make sure to be baptized in the name of God the Father; and of the Son, Jesus Christ; and of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19, Acts 2:38). Christians can get water-immersion baptized at, for example, a Baptist-type congregation.

Besides getting water baptized, Christians can get Holy Spirit baptized (Acts 11:15-16, Acts 10:44-46). They usually have to ask to receive the Holy Spirit (Luke 11:13b) baptism, for it is usually not given to them automatically at the moment that they become Christians. That is why the apostle Paul at one point asked some Christians: "Have ye received the Holy Spirit since ye believed?" (Acts 19:2).

Christians usually receive Holy Spirit baptism through prayer accompanied by the laying on of hands, subsequent to water baptism (Acts 8:15-17, Acts 19:5-6). Holy Spirit baptism will not result in the speaking in tongues for everyone (1 Corinthians 12:30), but for almost everyone, as tongues are one of the Spirit's lesser gifts (1 Corinthians 12:8-11,28; 1 Corinthians 14:5). Many Christians have not yet experienced Holy Spirit baptism simply because they have not yet asked for it, under the principle of: "ye have not, because ye ask not" (James 4:2b). Many Christians have not yet asked for it because they have come under the influence of mistaken teachings which say that it is no longer in effect. Christians can get hands laid on them to receive Holy Spirit baptism at any Pentecostal-type congregation, or at any charismatic-type congregation, which can be of almost any denomination.

The communion in 1 Corinthians 11 is for the body of Christ. It is for the oneness of the body through the shed blood of Christ for our justification unto eternal life. It is not the Passover. The body of Christ is not placed under the new testament. Communion does not save us or keep us saved.

Note that the BOC is placed under the New Testament (2 Corinthians 3:6), which includes Communion (1 Corinthians 11:25).

For John 6:53-57 shows that all Christians, for their ultimate salvation, must eat the bread of Communion (Matthew 26:26), and drink the wine of Communion (Matthew 26:27-29), which actually become the body and blood of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 11:27-30), in some spiritual manner (John 6:63).

That is, "discerning the Lord's body" means that when Christians partake of Communion (1 Corinthians 11:23-29), they must discern that the bread and wine are the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ (John 6:53-56) in some spiritual manner (John 6:63), or they may suffer the consequences (1 Corinthians 11:30).

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Matthew 6:14-15 Is the requirement for Israel under the covenant to forgive others to be forgiven. The body of Christ is already forgiven in Christ.

Note that there is no dichotomy between Israel and the BOC (Romans 11:17).

See post #81 above.

Matthew 25:34-46 is when the Gentile nations are judged as to whether or not they enter the Davidic millennial kingdom on earth based on how they treated Israel in the tribulation.

Regarding the sheep and goat judgment, Matthew 25:31 does not mean that Matthew 25:32-46 (just as 2 Peter 3:10a does not mean that 2 Peter 3:10b) will happen immediately at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming, only that it will happen sometime subsequent to His Second Coming, at the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15), which will not occur until after the future Millennium and subsequent events (Revelation 20:7-15).

Matthew 25:32-46 refers to when the nations will be finally-judged by their works at the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:12-13), whereas at Jesus Christ's future, Second Coming, which will occur before the Millennium, He will finally-judge only those in the Church (Psalms 50:3-5, cf. Mark 13:27; Matthew 25:19-30). Also, Matthew 25:41,46 refers to when non-Christians of all times, whether Jews or Gentiles, will be sent, at the Great White Throne Judgment, into the everlasting suffering of the lake of fire and brimstone (Revelation 20:15), whereas at the Second Coming only the future Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of Revelation's "beast") and his False Prophet will be cast into the lake of fire (Revelation 19:20). The saved "sheep" at the sheep/goat judgment will include those people, whether Jews or Gentiles, who will become Christians during the future Millennium (Isaiah 66:19-21). Matthew 25:34 refers to obedient Christians inheriting the Kingdom of God the Father in New Jerusalem, the Father's house, on the future, New Earth (Revelation 21:1-7, John 14:2), as in a new surface for the earth.

Revelation 3:5 Israel has to endure to the end of the tribulation and remain faithful to enter the kingdom.

Note that the Church is being addressed there (Revelation 3:6), just as in Acts 14:22.

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Paul said in 1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel . . .

Note that in 1 Corinthians 1:17, the apostle Paul was not contradicting his own teaching of the necessity of water-immersion (burial) baptism for ultimate salvation (Romans 6:3-11, Colossians 2:12, Galatians 3:27). He simply meant that God did not want him to spend his apostolic time personally baptizing everyone who became a Christian through his preaching. For any other people in the Church could do that for him (cf. John 4:2). For any Christian can baptize new Christians. Also, Paul did not want to personally baptize a lot of people, to avoid as much as possible any false charge that he baptized in his own name (1 Corinthians 1:14-15). The Bible does not say how many people Paul baptized, but it does show that he made sure that people got baptized, whether by himself or someone else, right away after their coming into faith in Jesus Christ through his preaching (Acts 16:14-15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:5).

See also post #47 above.
 

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Note that it's not either/or, but both/and (Revelation 5:9-10).
Revelation 5 is NOT today!

Note that Romans 1:16 was written by Paul to show that there is no distinction between Jew and Greek with regard to our salvation from hell under the one and only Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I can only laugh at "the one and only" people.

Also, regarding your reference to:

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Indeed... this clearly demonstrates that the body of Christ is a NEW creature and not simply a continuation of what came before.

Note that there is, but only with regard to chronology; i.e. the Gospel was preached to Jews before it was preached to Gentiles (Luke 24:46-47).
There are many gospels in the Bible.
 

DougE

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Amen, just as Jesus Christ Himself had preached (Luke 24:46-47).



Note that the ideas of initial salvation and ultimate salvation do not have to be explicitly referred to in the Bible as "initial salvation" and "ultimate salvation" for them to be true and supported by the Bible, just as, for example, the ideas of the unity of God and the Trinity do not have to be explicitly referred to in the Bible as "the unity" and "the Trinity" for them to be true and supported by the Bible (John 10:30, John 1:1,14, Isaiah 45:5, Matthew 28:19, Acts 5:3-4).

For in the Bible, the difference between initial salvation and ultimate salvation is that initial salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ without any works at all on our part (Romans 4:1-5, Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9), while other passages show that Christians must have both faith and continued works of faith (1 Thessalonians 1:3, Galatians 5:6b, Titus 3:8) (not works of the letter of the Old Covenant Mosaic law), if they are to obtain ultimate salvation (Romans 2:6-8, James 2:24, Matthew 7:21, Matthew 25:26,30, Philippians 2:12b, Philippians 3:11-14; 2 Corinthians 5:9, Hebrews 5:9, Hebrews 6:10-12; 2 Peter 1:10-11, John 15:2a; 1 John 2:17b). For Christians must continue to do righteous deeds if they are to continue to be righteous (1 John 3:7, James 2:24,26). And there is no assurance that Christians will choose to do that, instead of wrongly employing their free will to become utterly lazy without repentance, to the ultimate loss of their salvation (Matthew 25:26,30, John 15:2a).

Also, in the Bible, the difference between initial salvation and ultimate salvation is that initial salvation is the salvation which Christians have now (Ephesians 2:5), in their mortal bodies, while ultimate salvation is the salvation ready to be revealed in the last time (1 Peter 1:5), and which is always drawing nearer (Romans 13:11), that salvation which Christians are still hoping for (1 Thessalonians 5:8, Romans 8:23-25, Mark 10:30), and which Jesus Christ will bring to obedient Christians at His future, Second Coming (Hebrews 9:28, Hebrews 5:9), when He will resurrect (if dead) or change (if alive) their mortal physical bodies into immortal physical bodies just like the immortal physical body which Jesus obtained at His resurrection on the third day after His death (Luke 24:39,46; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4,21-23,51-53, Philippians 3:21, Romans 8:23-25, Philippians 3:11-14).



Note that the book of Hebrews is about the Church (Hebrews 2:12, Hebrews 12:23), the body of Jesus Christ (Hebrews 13:3, cf. 1 Corinthians 12:25-27).

That's why the book of Hebrews says that the BOC is not under the Mosaic law and covenant (Hebrews 7:18-19, Hebrews 8:6-7).



Note that the one is required for the other, ultimately (Romans 2:6-8).

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Note that it is also how He will judge real Christians (2 Corinthians 5:10-11).



But note that Christian labours are required in order to be ultimately accepted by Jesus (2 Corinthians 5:9).



Note again that the book of Hebrews is addressed to the Church (Hebrews 2:12, Hebrews 12:23), the body of Jesus Christ (Hebrews 13:3, cf. 1 Corinthians 12:25-27).

Also, regarding Hebrews 10:26-29, see post #174 above.

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Note that it is (Acts 14:22)

Thanks for responding

We upon believing the gospel and trusting in Christ and his redemption have eternal life we are justified (Romans 3:24) and is not dependent on us or our righteousness (Philippians 3:9)

Luke 24:46-47 Jesus's death and resurrection was in prophecy and was not hidden. Jesus said this was for the new testament for Israel. verse 47 is about the gospel of the kingdom to be preached to the nations in the kingdom. Not being cute but if verse 47 is for us, we would have to start at Jerusalem to obey this verse.

Hebrews 13:3 is speaking of the physical body
 
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bibleverse2

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Revelation 5 is NOT today!

But Revelation 5:9b-10 refers to people in today's BOC who will reign with Jesus Christ on the earth in the future, just as Revelation 2:26-29 and Revelation 20:4-6 refer to that.

I can only laugh at "the one and only" people.

Be careful not to do that (Romans 11:18-32).

[Re: Galatians 3:28]

.. this clearly demonstrates that the body of Christ is a NEW creature and not simply a continuation of what came before.

Amen. For the BOC is under the NEW Covenant/Testament (2 Corinthians 3:6, Hebrews 12:24), which includes both Jews and Gentiles (1 Corinthians 12:13), just as was prophesied (Isaiah 49:6).

There are many gospels in the Bible.

Note that there is only one (Galatians 1:6-9), as Paul makes clear even from the beginning of the book of Romans (Romans 1:1-17).
 

bibleverse2

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Thanks for responding

You're welcome. Same to you.

We upon believing the gospel and trusting in Christ and his redemption have eternal life we are justified (Romans 3:24) and is not dependent on us or our righteousness (Philippians 3:9)

Amen.

But that is in regard only to initial justification, not ultimate justification (James 2:24, Romans 2:6-8, Hebrews 5:9).

(See also post #140 above)

Luke 24:46-47 Jesus's death and resurrection was in prophecy and was not hidden.

Note that it was both (Luke 18:31-34; see verse 34).

Jesus said this was for the new testament for Israel.

Note that the New Testament is for the BOC (2 Corinthians 3:6), which is Israel (Romans 11:17).

(See also post #81 above)

[Luke 24] verse 47 is about the gospel of the kingdom to be preached to the nations in the kingdom.

Note that Paul preached the gospel of the kingdom (Acts 14:22); he preached the same as Luke 24:46-47 (Acts 26:22-23).

Not being cute but if [Luke 24] verse 47 is for us, we would have to start at Jerusalem to obey this verse.

Note that the BOC already fulfilled that, such as through Peter's preaching in Jerusalem (Acts 2:14-47), which was subsequently followed by his being the first to preach the gospel to the Gentiles outside of Jerusalem (Acts 15:7, referring back to Acts chapters 10-11).

Peter is part of the very foundation of the BOC (Ephesians 2:20).

Hebrews 13:3 is speaking of the physical body

Note that it is speaking of the BOC, the church (Hebrews 12:23, cf. Colossians 1:18).
 

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But Revelation 5:9b-10 refers to people in today's BOC who will reign with Jesus Christ on the earth in the future, just as Revelation 2:26-29 and Revelation 20:4-6 refer to that.
Nope... NONE of that refers to the BoC.

Nobody in the BoC is a "king" or a "priest". Paul, the first member of the BoC, never uses the word "priest" in ANY of this 13 epistles.

Be careful not to do that (Romans 11:18-32).
We all enjoy out of context scripture.... NOT!

Amen. For the BOC is under the NEW Covenant/Testament (2 Corinthians 3:6, Hebrews 12:24), which includes both Jews and Gentiles (1 Corinthians 12:13), just as was prophesied (Isaiah 49:6).
Scripture CLEARLY and REPEATEDLY states the new COVENANT is between God and ISRAEL.

Jer 31:31-33 KJV Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: (32) Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: (33) But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Heb 8:8-10 KJV For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: (9) Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. (10) For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

So simple and so clear... completely unambiguous.

Note that there is only one (Galatians 1:6-9), as Paul makes clear even from the beginning of the book of Romans (Romans 1:1-17).
The word "gospel" has a simple meaning. But Churchianity worships the word.

There are many gospels in the Bible, whether you believe it or not.
 

DougE

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You're welcome. Same to you.



Amen.

But that is in regard only to initial justification, not ultimate justification (James 2:24, Romans 2:6-8, Hebrews 5:9).

(See also post #140 above)



Note that it was both (Luke 18:31-34; see verse 34).



Note that the New Testament is for the BOC (2 Corinthians 3:6), which is Israel (Romans 11:17).

(See also post #81 above)



Note that Paul preached the gospel of the kingdom (Acts 14:22); he preached the same as Luke 24:46-47 (Acts 26:22-23).



Note that the BOC already fulfilled that, such as through Peter's preaching in Jerusalem (Acts 2:14-47), which was subsequently followed by his being the first to preach the gospel to the Gentiles outside of Jerusalem (Acts 15:7, referring back to Acts chapters 10-11).

Peter is part of the very foundation of the BOC (Ephesians 2:20).



Note that it is speaking of the BOC, the church (Hebrews 12:23, cf. Colossians 1:18).

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But that is in regard only to initial justification, not ultimate justification (James 2:24, Romans 2:6-8, Hebrews 5:9).

All I can say is you are mixing verses meant for Israel with verses meant for the body of Christ.
Israel is under a covenant and had to be righteous to enter the earthly kingdom (James 2:24 Hebrews 5:9).

Christ did all that was necessary to save us.

I don't know what else to say, you can chose what you believe.
 

bibleverse2

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[Re: Revelation 5:9b-10, Revelation 2:26-29, Revelation 20:4-6]

Nobody in the BoC is a "king" or a "priest". Paul, the first member of the BoC, never uses the word "priest" in ANY of this 13 epistles.

Note that doesn't matter, because Revelation is still addressing the BOC, the Church (Revelation 22:16, cf. Colossians 1:18).

Also, similarly, no significance should be read into the fact that the specific word "church" is mentioned many times in Revelation chapters 1-3 but not mentioned again until Revelation 22, just as no significance should be read into the fact that the specific word "church" is mentioned many times in Romans 16 but not mentioned in Romans chapters 1 to 15. The reason why the word "church" is mentioned many times in Revelation chapters 1-3 is because those chapters refer to seven, literal, first century AD local church congregations in seven cities in the Roman province of "Asia" (Revelation 1:11), which is today western Turkey.

The Church in the general sense will definitely be in the future Tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, for Christians will definitely be in it (Revelation 13:7-10, Revelation 14:12-13, Revelation 20:4, Matthew 24:9-13) and there are no Christians outside of the Church (Ephesians 4:4-6). Also, just as the mistaken, pre-tribulation rapture view admits that Revelation chapters 19 to 22 include references to the Church without using the specific word "church", so it should be able to admit that Revelation chapters 6 to 18 can include references to the Church without using the specific word "church".

Scripture CLEARLY and REPEATEDLY states the new COVENANT is between God and ISRAEL.

Amen.

And there is no dichotomy between Israel and the Church/BOC (Romans 11:17).

See post #81 above.

That is why even Paul shows that the Church/BOC is under the New Covenant/New Testament (2 Corinthians 3:6; 1 Corinthians 11:25).

See also post #22 above.
 

bibleverse2

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Christ did all that was necessary to save us.

Amen.

For only Jesus Christ can save people from hell (John 14:6, John 3:36), by His sacrifice on the Cross for our sins (Romans 3:25), and by the ability that He gives Christians to continue in the faith (Hebrews 12:2), to continue to do good works (John 15:5), to continue to repent from every sin that they commit (John 8:34-36), and to overcome to the end (Revelation 12:11), by their own choice. All NOSAS does is admit the fact that there is no assurance that every Christian will choose to do all of these things to the end.

OSAS ultimately negates free will.

(See post #171 above.)
 

DougE

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Note that they did, for:

1 Corinthians 15:11 . . . whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.

The audience in this epistle also consisted of believers who believed the preaching of Peter and the others. They believed the gospel of the kingdom.
 

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Only one good news gospel that saves.

Starting with John the baptizer, then Jesus himself, and all the way from Peter to Paul we are told to repent and have faith.


JOHN THE BAPTIZER


Luke 3:8 Produce fruit in keeping with repentance. And do not begin to say to yourselves,


PAUL

Acts 20:21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.

Acts 26:20 First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds.


JESUS


Luke 13:3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.
 

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The gospel good news is Jesus Christ.

Mark 1:1 [ John the Baptist Prepares the Way ] The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God,

Acts 5:42 Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Messiah.

Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ,they were baptized, both men and women.

Acts 8:35 Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus.

Acts 10:36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.

Acts 11:20 Some of them, however, men from Cyprus and Cyrene, went to Antioch and began to speak to Greeks also, telling them the good news about the Lord Jesus.

Acts 14:15 “Friends, why are you doing this? We too are only human, like you. We are bringing you good news, telling you to turn from these worthless things to the living God, who made the heavens and the earth and the sea and everything in them.

Acts 17:18 A group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers began to debate with him. Some of them asked, “What is this babbler trying to say?” Others remarked, “He seems to be advocating foreign gods.” They said this because Paul was preaching the good news about Jesus and the resurrection.

Hebrews 4:2 For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed.


There is one gospel good news.
 

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1 Thessalonians 2:14 For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of God’s churches in Judea,

which are in Christ Jesus:

You suffered from your own people the same things those churches suffered from the Jews

15 who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.

They displease God and are hostile to everyone

16 in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved.

16 in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved.

16 in their effort to keep us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved.


Paul tells the GENTILES to be imitators of the churches in Judea. The churches in Judea are the churches of JEWS. Now remember, Paul was sent far away from the Jews because they thought he was trying to trick them into saying they believed in Jesus so that he could put them in prison.
So we see in those scriptures that show us there are JEWS that were called CHURCH, which is the BODY OF CHRIST---and that was not established by Paul.
 

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Jesus said that when he is crucified, then all could come to him to be saved.

John 12:32 And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself."

Peter preached Jesus died for our sins.

Acts 2:38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

...and that Jesus was raised from the dead...

Acts 5:31 God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might bring Israel to repentance and forgive their sins.

...and that we have to believe in Jesus...

Acts 10:43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

Paul taught the exact same thing.
 

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Isaiah

The LORD has made his life a sacrifice for our wrongdoings. See Isaiah 53:10.
It was the LORD’s will to crush him with suffering. See Isaiah 53:10.
Jesus bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors. See Isaiah 53:12

Jesus

God sanctifies us by the truth; His word is truth. John 17:17.
Jesus sanctified himself, that he may truly sanctify us. John 17:19.
God has given us eternal life and this life is in His Son. John 3:16.
All who reject Jesus will one day face God’s wrath. John 3:36
His words are life. John 6:63


Peter

He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed. 1 Peter 2:24.
2 Peter 2:9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of Judgment.

John

Jesus appeared so that he might take away our sins. See 1 John 3:5.
He who has the Son has life; He who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 1 John 5:12.

Paul

God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. 2 Corinthians 5:21 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. See Colossians 1:19-21.
1 Corinthians 15:3
For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,

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Galatians 1:23 They only heard the report: “The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.

Did you read that? They said that PAUL is NOW preaching THE FAITH he once tried to destroy.
 

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Jesus preached that he would die for us.

John 6:51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world."

John 10:18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."

John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.

Acts 8:32 This is the passage of Scripture the eunuch was reading: "He was led like a sheep to the slaughter, and as a lamb before its shearer is silent, so he did not open his mouth.

Paul preached Jesus dying for our sins.

1 Corinthians 15:3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,

Peter preached Jesus dying for our sins.

1 Peter 1:19 but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect.

John preached Jesus dying for our sins.

1 John 3:5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin.

Revelation 5:6 Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

Revelation 5:12 In a loud voice they were saying: "Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain, to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and praise!"
 
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