Tasted Death for every Man !

[marke]

He tasted death for every man. The immediate context clarifies who the every man are in Heb 2:9-10


But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

10 “For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. The suffering here culminates into His death in Vs 9

He tasted death for everyone of the many sons, that is supported by the immediate context.

Jesus suffered pain and death because God decided that should be important in saving some sinners for reasons secret to Him that had nothing whatsoever to do with the sinner. Why did Jesus have to die? So those who turned to Him could live? Not according to proud self-described elect Christians. They think turning to Jesus of their own will is not possible, so Jesus died and God had to make them believe it was for the elect few but not for everyone. The special few will believe because God will force them to believe and the rest will be burned in hell for God's pleasure and glory.

I don't believe that "special few chosen to be loved by God from billions of sinners God predestined to burn in the fire for His own glory and pleasure" nonsense.

 

[beloved57]

Jesus suffered pain and death because God decided that should be important in saving some sinners for reasons secret to Him that had nothing whatsoever to do with the sinner. Why did Jesus have to die? So those who turned to Him could live? Not according to proud self-described elect Christians. They think turning to Jesus of their own will is not possible, so Jesus died and God had to make them believe it was for the elect few but not for everyone. The special few will believe because God will force them to believe and the rest will be burned in hell for God's pleasure and glory.

I don't believe that "special few chosen to be loved by God from billions of sinners God predestined to burn in the fire for His own glory and pleasure" nonsense.

Jesus death brings many sons [elect sheep] to glory!

 

[marke]

Jesus death brings many sons [elect sheep] to glory!

Jesus by His death took away the sin of the world and reconciled the world to God, opening the way to the holy of holies for sinners to plead with God to be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

 

[beloved57]

Jesus by His death took away the sin of the world and reconciled the world to God, opening the way to the holy of holies for sinners to plead with God to be saved.

2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

John 1:29
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Those verses dont change what I stated before:

Jesus death brings many sons [elect sheep] to glory!

 

[marke]

Those verses dont change what I stated before:

Jesus death brings many sons [elect sheep] to glory!

Of course you are right. Jesus does bring many sons to glory and would bring even more if they would not reject the Gospel message.

 

[beloved57]

Of course you are right. Jesus does bring many sons to glory and would bring even more if they would not reject the Gospel message.

He brings to Glory all whom He tasted death for. They rejected Him at first, but He made them willing and saved them from their rejection of Him. Mans rejection isnt more powerful than God, if that was so, no one would be saved, all men reject God by nature.

 

[marke]

He brings to Glory all whom He tasted death for. They rejected Him at first, but He made them willing and saved them from their rejection of Him. Mans rejection isnt more powerful than God, if that was so, no one would be saved, all men reject God by nature.

You wrongly suggest God makes some believe Him and refuses to allow others to believe Him. That is not Bible, it is nonsense.

 

[beloved57]

You wrongly suggest God makes some believe Him and refuses to allow others to believe Him. That is not Bible, it is nonsense.

I haven't suggested anything, scripture says those He tasted death for He brings them to Glory.

 

[marke]

I haven't suggested anything, scripture says those He tasted death for He brings them to Gloryy.

Of course Jesus will bring His sons to glory. If you want to limit your discussion of God's grace to avoid dealing with the fact that Jesus' death took away the sin of the entire world then just say so.

 

[beloved57]

Of course Jesus will bring His sons to glory. If you want to limit your discussion of God's grace to avoid dealing with the fact that Jesus' death took away the sin of the entire world then just say so.

Thats who Jesus tasted death for, them He brings to Glory.

 

[marke]

Thats who Jesus tasted death for, them He brings to Glory.

Jesus tasted death for every man but not every man will be saved.

Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

 

[beloved57]

Jesus tasted death for every man but not every man will be saved.

Hebrews 2:9
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Every man Jesus tasted death for He became the Captain of their Salvation and brings them to Glory Heb 2:9-10

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

See His sufferings unto death brings them He tastd death for, to Glory. Thats the success of His death. You dont believe that do you ?

 

[marke]

Every man Jesus tasted death for He became the Captain of their Salvation and brings them to Glory Heb 2:9-10

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

See His sufferings unto death brings them He tastd death for, to Glory. Thats the success of His death. You dont believe that do you ?

Maybe you should rewrite the verse to say, He "should taste death for only those He did not want to burn in hell."

 

[Tycho]

God hates calvinism

 

[beloved57]

Every man Jesus tasted death for He became the Captain of their Salvation and brings them to Glory Heb 2:9-10

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Also the every man He tasted death for, are the sanctified ones Heb 2:11

11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Now how were they who are sanctified sanctified ? Heb 10:10 tells us

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ, which is equivalent to saying as Heb 2:9 states, His Death

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Now are all men individually without exception sanctified ? Of course not, so Christ could not have tasted death for all men individually !

 

[Derf]

Every man Jesus tasted death for He became the Captain of their Salvation and brings them to Glory Heb 2:9-10

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

Also the every man He tasted death for, are the sanctified ones Heb 2:11

11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Now how were they who are sanctified sanctified ? Heb 10:10 tells us

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ, which is equivalent to saying as Heb 2:9 states, His Death

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Now are all men individually without exception sanctified ? Of course not, so Christ could not have tasted death for all men individually !

You will be able to tell who Jesus tasted death for by who is resurrected from death. Since everybody will be resurrected, Jesus' death applies to everyone. However, only those who submit to His lordship will enter His kingdom.

 

[Bradley D]

You will be able to tell who Jesus tasted death for by who is resurrected from death. Since everybody will be resurrected, Jesus' death applies to everyone. However, only those who submit to His lordship will enter His kingdom.

I hope to be on the "right" Matthew 25:33.

 

[beloved57]

You will be able to tell who Jesus tasted death for by who is resurrected from death. Since everybody will be resurrected, Jesus' death applies to everyone. However, only those who submit to His lordship will enter His kingdom.

Not quite, some will be resurrected to damnation, Im sure Jesus didnt tast death for them Jn 5:29


And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

If you would have been paying attention, the ones Jesus tasted death for #1 Brings them to Glory, not damnation, and #2 His death sanctified them.

 

[Derf]

I hope to be on the "right" Matthew 25:33.

Don't be goaty.

 

[Derf]

Not quite, some will be resurrected to damnation, Im sure Jesus didnt tast death for them Jn 5:29

I'm sure He did, since it says "taste death for every man." You're working so hard to make it say something it doesn't say, but you aren't willing to allow it to say exactly what it says.
Aren't you saying, in effect, "God doesn't know what He's talking about; I know better than God"?

And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

If you would have been paying attention, the ones Jesus tasted death for #1 Brings them to Glory, not damnation, and #2 His death sanctified them.

It also says
Hebrews 2:3 (KJV) How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard [him];

How can anyone neglect a salvation that isn't meant for him?