T.D. Jakes Comes Out for ‘Gay Rights’ and ‘LGBT Churches,’ Says Position is ‘Evolving

[Truster]

That stopped in 653 AD :chuckle:

It continues and you are proof of that.

 

[Epoisses]

I guess he will not be one of the signers then:

https://cbmw.org/nashville-statement

The statement is a good start. Point #8 should have been more explicit in declaring same sex attraction (SSA) as sin versus its lukewarm formulation. After all, natural lust is sin, hence, unnatural lust, SSA, is most certainly sin.

AMR

So is it a sin for a Godly man to desire his Godly wife say for instance like Peter the apostle who was married not a worthless monk in a monastery?

Take a good look at the monastery life of endless dead works because that is where the false gospel will lead every foolish man or woman.

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

It continues and you are proof of that.

Twit twit deedle a dee, twit twit deedle a dee.

 

[The Berean]

I believe that homosexuality is wrong. And, I can't see anything changing my mind on that. My own daughter claims to be asexual with a preference toward women. One of the reasons she no longer lives with me is that she's mad that I just won't accept her view that homosexuality is "normal."

Hi Nori,

I remember we talked about your daughter years ago. I'm sad she abandoned her Christian upbringing for worldly, ungodly values.

 

[Truster]

Twit twit deedle a dee, twit twit deedle a dee.

Yet more proof of irreverence towards the truth, the trust and all that is holy. You might kid yourself but we have the assured witness that, "by their fruit ye shall know them".

 

[1Mind1Spirit]

Yet more proof of irreverence towards the truth, the trust and all that is holy. You might kid yourself but we have the assured witness that, "by their fruit ye shall know them".

 

[Truster]

diddle eee diddle eee diddle eee diddle eee dooo

Double minded with an evil spirit.

"Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of depraved mind, rejected in regard to the trust".​

 

[Angel4Truth]

So is it a sin for a Godly man to desire his Godly wife say for instance like Peter the apostle who was married not a worthless monk in a monastery?

Take a good look at the monastery life of endless dead works because that is where the false gospel will lead every foolish man or woman.

The marital bed is blessed.

Lust means selfish desire. Not just the desire of a husband and wife for one another.

(Example, a husband demanding relations from an ill wife, would be lust. (His selfish desire for her regardless of her feelings or condition) anyway, you can figure out where one desire would be ok and another lust (selfish)

But then all sin is selfish, isnt it.

 

[Epoisses]

The marital bed is blessed.

Lust means selfish desire. Not just the desire of a husband and wife for one another.

(Example, a husband demanding relations from an ill wife, would be lust. (His selfish desire for her regardless of her feelings or condition) anyway, you can figure out where one desire would be ok and another lust (selfish)

But then all sin is selfish, isnt it.

I agree. God gives godly desire to his children which is not lust. Lust is a worldly love where I love those who are sinful. It's a fine line but it's there.

 

[Angel4Truth]

He says he never gave support:

T.D. Jakes: ‘I Never Said I Supported Gay Marriage’

Contrary to what the Huffington Post says, Bishop T.D. Jakes is not a supporter of same-sex marriage.

BET.com reports the religious leader took to social media to set the record straight on comments he made to the publication last week that seemed to indicate his support of same-sex marriage. According to Jakes, his remarks were “manipulated” to make it seem that he was in favor of something he apparently doesn’t stand behind.

“My comment on HuffPo TV drifted into issues of the Supreme Court ruling and changing the world through public policy [versus] personal witness,” he said on Facebook. “Further, I have come to respect that I can’t force my beliefs on others by controlling public policy for taxpayers and other U.S. citizens. Jesus never sought to change the world through public policy but rather through personal transformation. All people didn’t embrace Him either. That’s what I said and what I meant… Nothing more and nothing less.”

In addition to clarifying his comments, Jakes threw critical shots at the Post, which he labeled as a “so-called Christian publication” that “misconstrued” his words “using lazy journalistic tactics to further their own agenda.”

“I simply meant that my method is evolving — not my message,” Jakes stated. “I was shocked to read that this was manipulated in a subsequent article to say I endorsed same-sex marriage! My position on the subject has been steadfast and rooted in Scripture. For the record, I do not endorse same-sex marriage, but I respect the rights that this country affords those that disagree with me.”

To see Jake’s HuffPost Live interview, check out the article link

 

[Truster]

A man who speaks unequivocal truth never needs to clarify what he has said.