Systematic theology and it influence on Jesus becoming a trinitarian God

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http://www.catholiccrossreference.com/tools/#!/ccc/t/PhilosophicalView attachment 770
http://www.catholiccrossreference.com/tools/#!/ccc/t/Philosophy
“See to it that no one makes a prey of you by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the universe, and not according to Christ.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:8‬ ‭RSV-CI‬‬

https://www.bible.com/bible/2017/col.2.8.rsv-ci
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Vs. text from your own image, "Following this apostolic tradition . . . ."

You equating Apostolic Tradition with "philosophy and empty deceit . . . human tradition . . . not according to Christ":

Fail.
 
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Lets be clear about this . No inspired writers followed your traditions . Let alone Jesus who was the long awaited promise Christ/Messiah who wasn’t a Christian.
“Therefore, holy brethren, who share in a heavenly call, consider Jesus, the apostle and high priest of our confession. He was faithful to him who appointed him, just as Moses also was faithful in God's house.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭3:1-2‬ ‭RSV-CI‬‬

https://www.bible.com/bible/2017/heb.3.1-2.rsv-ci

Idolater said:
Vs. text from your own image, "Following this apostolic tradition . . . ."

You equating Apostolic Tradition with "philosophy and empty deceit . . . human tradition . . . not according to Christ":

Fail.
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f.y.i said:
Lets be clear about this . No inspired writers followed your traditions . Let alone Jesus who was the long awaited promise Christ/Messiah who wasn’t a Christian.
“Therefore, holy brethren, who share in a heavenly call, consider Jesus, the apostle and high priest of our confession. He was faithful to him who appointed him, just as Moses also was faithful in God's house.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭3:1-2‬ ‭RSV-CI‬‬

https://www.bible.com/bible/2017/heb.3.1-2.rsv-ci
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You continue to ignore the truth.

The LORD Jesus Christ gave new revelation to a man named Paul.
1Co 15:3-8 KJV For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; (4) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: (5) And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: (6) After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. (7) After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. (8) And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
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You continue to ignore the truth.

The LORD Jesus Christ gave new revelation to a man named Paul.
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No I don’t . As Jesus Christ has never been LORD or greater than the one who sent him .
“Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭13:16‬ ‭RSV-CI‬‬
https://www.bible.com/bible/2017/jhn.13.16.rsv-ci
““For God has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “All things are put in subjection under him,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things under him, that God may be everything to every one.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:27-28‬ ‭RSV-CI‬‬
https://www.bible.com/bible/2017/1co.15.27-28.rsv-ci
 
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f.y.i said:
No I don’t . As Jesus Christ has never been LORD or greater than the one who sent him .
“Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭13:16‬ ‭RSV-CI‬‬
https://www.bible.com/bible/2017/jhn.13.16.rsv-ci
““For God has put all things in subjection under his feet.” But when it says, “All things are put in subjection under him,” it is plain that he is excepted who put all things under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things under him, that God may be everything to every one.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:27-28‬ ‭RSV-CI‬‬
https://www.bible.com/bible/2017/1co.15.27-28.rsv-ci
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Jesus Christ is THE LORD from heaven. Here is the Bible explaining His return:
Zec 14:1-4 KJV Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. (2) For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. (3) Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. (4) And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
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Jesus Christ is THE LORD from heaven. Here is the Bible explaining His return:
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Just wow . Jesus name isn’t the divine name . If it wanted to say Jesus in in Hebrew it would be Yehoshua or in it shorten form Y(eh)oshua, Ye(ho)sua it wasn’t given the same treatment as the divine name .
 
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f.y.i said:
Just wow . Jesus name isn’t the divine name . If it wanted to say Jesus in in Hebrew it would be Yehoshua or in it shorten form Y(eh)oshua, Ye(ho)sua it wasn’t given the same treatment as the divine name .
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Wow... Jesus is THE LORD from heaven.

You are an ANTI-CHRIST.... get lost... this CHRISTIAN site does not need any more HERETICS.
 
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Wow... Jesus is THE LORD from heaven.

You are an ANTI-CHRIST.... get lost... this CHRISTIAN site does not need any more HERETICS.
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Get lost ? Wow just because I made a point Jesus name in Hebrew is readable in our own copies of our bibles . You get defensive because I just stated the obvious. Grow up .
 
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You are illogical and heretical. So, yes, get lost.
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Illogical. What’re you Spock .
“But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear; having a good conscience, that when they defame you as evildoers, those who revile your good conduct in Christ may be ashamed. For it is better, if it is the will of God, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.”
‭‭I Peter‬ ‭3:15-17‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://www.bible.com/bible/114/1pe.3.15-17.nkjv
 
Idolater

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f.y.i said:
Lets be clear about this . No inspired writers followed your traditions . Let alone Jesus who was the long awaited promise Christ/Messiah who wasn’t a Christian.
“Therefore, holy brethren, who share in a heavenly call, consider Jesus, the apostle and high priest of our confession. He was faithful to him who appointed him, just as Moses also was faithful in God's house.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭3:1-2‬ ‭RSV-CI‬‬

https://www.bible.com/bible/2017/heb.3.1-2.rsv-ci
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Gobbledygook. The fact is you're denying the teaching authority of the Apostles, and it was the Apostles who wrote or approved of the Bible, that you're reading, concocting a new spin on it that the literal authors of Scripture taught directly against.
 
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Idolater said:
Gobbledygook. The fact is you're denying the teaching authority of the Apostles, and it was the Apostles who wrote or approved of the Bible, that you're reading, concocting a new spin on it that the literal authors of Scripture taught directly against.
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Jesus wasn’t anti semantic against his own Jewish beliefs or did he need to consult you for a opinion regarding who true worshippers are let alone about those who do the will of his God and Father .
“You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

Jesus said to them, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to finish His work.”
‭‭John‬ ‭4:22-24, 34‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/bible/114/jhn.4.22-24,34.nkjv
““Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:21‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/bible/114/mat.7.21.nkjv
 
Idolater

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f.y.i said:
Jesus wasn’t anti semantic against his own Jewish beliefs or did he need to consult you for a opinion regarding who true worshippers are let alone about those who do the will of his God and Father .
“You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

Jesus said to them, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to finish His work.”
‭‭John‬ ‭4:22-24, 34‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/bible/114/jhn.4.22-24,34.nkjv
““Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:21‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
https://www.bible.com/bible/114/mat.7.21.nkjv
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Idolater said:
Gobbledygook. The fact is you're denying the teaching authority of the Apostles, and it was the Apostles who wrote or approved of the Bible, that you're reading, concocting a new spin on it that the literal authors of Scripture taught directly against.
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gobbledygook would be you calling your false assertion fact . Knowing full well
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Yes, you do.



And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” - John 20:28 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John20:28&version=NKJV

Why do you reject what the apostle Thomas said?



Where has anyone here ever claimed that Christ was "greater than the one who sent Him"?
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JudgeRightly said:
Yes, you do.



And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” - John 20:28 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John20:28&version=NKJV

Why do you reject what the apostle Thomas said?



Where has anyone here ever claimed that Christ was "greater than the one who sent Him"?
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Why would someone who you consider co equal to the Father refer to the Father as perfect and greater than him . Which from scripture line up with him been made lower than the Angels . I can read this from any bible translation yet you are fixated in using anachronism and post biblical hermeneutics as your source of reasoning. 🤦‍♂️
 
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gobbledygook would be you calling your false assertion fact . Knowing full well


Why would someone who you consider co equal to the Father refer to the Father as perfect and greater than him . Which from scripture line up with him been made lower than the Angels . I can read this from any bible translation yet you are fixated in using anachronism and post biblical hermeneutics as your source of reasoning. 🤦‍♂️
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When you use Bible verses, in an attempt to discredit other Bible verses, it is simply evidence that you understand none of them.
 
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OZOS said:
No true Scotsman, is a logical fallacy.
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^^^ all bible translation incriminate you of not understanding what scripture is saying. Passing of your willful ignorance with wishful thinking isn’t my flaw, but yours .
 
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