Daedalean's_Sun
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Given that he is arguing the impact is on the mechanical functioning of clocks that function differently, yes.
Summit Clock Experiment 2.0: Time is Absolute
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Given that he is arguing the impact is on the mechanical functioning of clocks that function differently, yes.
This is not "out of hand." I dismiss it because there is, after all this time, no definitive empirical evidence to support it.
Yeah, I don't see any explanation on that page.
Are you still making the same tired argument that if time was not created by God then it must necessarily control Him?
Your brain must be quite limited as it still doesn't grasp the idea that time exists as a result of God existing, and therefore it is a response to that existence and therefore the control flows from God, in a passive manner.
He has to be omni what?
And what is "everything"? Is it not all that exists to be known? So then the question is regarding what exists to be known, not whether God can know that which does. We do not argue that God cannot know things that exist as objects of knowledge, we argue that there are things that don't exist and thus cannot be known.
Can God contain Himself?
When you can actually show your theology on this subject in Scripture, instead of being a hypocrite, then someone might take you seriously.
You are the one kowtowing to a doctrine that makes you feel warm and fuzzy, because the idea the future isn't settled is unsettling to you. You are a coward, afraid of tomorrow if God hasn't already planned it all out.
I don't have to be afraid of tomorrow because I know God is powerful enough to move without having to know exactly how every little thing will play out. He has promised to do His will in spite of anything else, which means He doesn't have to see the future, let alone control every aspect, to know He will accomplish what He wills, as He is the Alpha and Omega.
Daedalean's_Sun
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Except for the experiments I just cited.
Look under where it says "ABSTRACT", everything that follows is an explanation.
Which prove nothing, as they can be definitively demonstrated as being the result of gravity on everything else, rather than time itself.
That is too short to be a worthy explanation.
What? :AMR:
He said gravity affects clocks. It affects pendulum clocks, and you have showed that it affects atomic clocks. Can you explain why you think it does not affect clocks?
Daedalean's_Sun
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This is why researchers use light.
It's referencing topics that it assumes you are already familiar with as it is from a science journal intended to be read by experts not laymen. You can look these things up independently.
Gravity affects light.
Daedalean's_Sun
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Yes and no.
I think it would be more accurate to say gravity affects the curvature of space-time. What's happening is the distance the light must travel is increased, and so it takes longer.
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Or at least that is my understanding of Special relativity.
Daedalean's_Sun
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Daedalean's_Sun
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What does this have to do with evolution?
Daedalean's_Sun
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Yes and no.
I think it would be more accurate to say gravity affects the curvature of space-time. What's happening is the distance the light must travel is increased, and so it takes longer.
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Or at least that is my understanding of Special relativity.
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*Remember that light is without mass.
Daedalean's_Sun
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Do you have anything to contribute, or is this pretty much it?
Be patient. Stripe is trying to think and that takes tremendous effort.
gcthomas
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Assertion was all it was.
How do YOU define and measure time? ALL processes that progress over time are affected by gravity in exactly the same way. It is jot simply that the clocks are affected physically so they run slow or fast. Every process slows the same. If time isn't defined in terms of how long it takes standard processes to happen, then what do you mean by 'time', Stripe?
Define time for us, so that we may become enlightened!
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Lon
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No, obviously not. "Before Abraham was, I AM." It is a name and a state about what time means to Him. "I AM" means He 'lives' in the past even though you and I cannot.