Stripping Is Lucrative (Public school alert)
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Well this was like pulling teeth.
So you are admitting that it's possible that some of these women DO enjoy the lifestyle. I think. Whether or not it's "okay" is really beside the point (for the record, getting high and/or drunk is okay in my book, but all things in moderation). I was trying to see if you were willing to admit that not every woman in adult entertainment was miserable and not having what she thought was a good time.
firechyld
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Mr Jack...
That's more or less my point. The sex industry is just like any other in that respect: Sometimes people have good experiences, sometimes bad. Personally, I've had much better experiences in the sex industry than I have at, say, ISP tech support. *shudder* Now THAT was a draining job.
Shimei...
I'm sorry if my story doesn't match up to your pre-conceived notions, but there are many different sides to the sex industry.
*shrug* I've never asked them.
Some in the industry prey on women. Some prey on men. Some run honest businesses that allow women and men to have a profitable and enjoyable career.
Again, one man's impression. You're just going to have to accept the fact that some of us in the industry love our jobs. Just as some of us are drug free.
I advise that you do the same thing. Check out a few strip clubs... not just the seediest one you can find... and survey some dancers. You might be surprised at the responses.
You think I'm lying? What on earth would i have to gain from that.
Incidentally... if you're going to accuse me of telling lies, you could at least have the balls to say it to me, rather than another poster.
You know what? If he was the MANAGER of several strip joints, then I'm afraid that the vast majority of the responsibility for the safety of his dancers, the reputation of his clubs and the behaviour expected from his clients falls on him. It's certainly not impossible to run a club where the dancers are safe and happy, the clients are well behaved, and drug pushers know to steer clear.
It seems to me that this Sherman character wants to blame the sex industry as a whole for his own failings as an operator.
That's more or less my point. The sex industry is just like any other in that respect: Sometimes people have good experiences, sometimes bad. Personally, I've had much better experiences in the sex industry than I have at, say, ISP tech support. *shudder* Now THAT was a draining job.
Shimei...
I'm sorry if my story doesn't match up to your pre-conceived notions, but there are many different sides to the sex industry.
*shrug* I've never asked them.
Some in the industry prey on women. Some prey on men. Some run honest businesses that allow women and men to have a profitable and enjoyable career.
Again, one man's impression. You're just going to have to accept the fact that some of us in the industry love our jobs. Just as some of us are drug free.
I advise that you do the same thing. Check out a few strip clubs... not just the seediest one you can find... and survey some dancers. You might be surprised at the responses.
You think I'm lying? What on earth would i have to gain from that.
Incidentally... if you're going to accuse me of telling lies, you could at least have the balls to say it to me, rather than another poster.
You know what? If he was the MANAGER of several strip joints, then I'm afraid that the vast majority of the responsibility for the safety of his dancers, the reputation of his clubs and the behaviour expected from his clients falls on him. It's certainly not impossible to run a club where the dancers are safe and happy, the clients are well behaved, and drug pushers know to steer clear.
It seems to me that this Sherman character wants to blame the sex industry as a whole for his own failings as an operator.
Shimei. Your sarcasm aside, it is POSSIBLE for some to have enjoyed the lifestyle, whether you want to admit it or not. Hair splitting doesn't change that.
The narrow-mindedness of evangelical Christianity seems to presuppose that a "destructive" lifestyle (which, by the way, is truly in the eyes of the beholder) isn't fun or enjoyable at the time. I think you need to get out more.
Originally posted by granite1010
Shimei. Your sarcasm aside, it is POSSIBLE for some to have enjoyed the lifestyle, whether you want to admit it or not. Hair splitting doesn't change that.
The narrow-mindedness of evangelical Christianity seems to presuppose that a "destructive" lifestyle (which, by the way, is truly in the eyes of the beholder) isn't fun or enjoyable at the time. I think you need to get out more.
If a stripper enjoys her job, so what? It destroys her life.
How do you define good and bad? Does good=enjoy and bad = not enjoy?
It MAY and it MAY NOT. I think you're creating a false dilemma here. Unless you think it's impossible for women to leave the life and start anew.
"Good" for me equals pleasure plus not hurting anyone. "Bad" would be the reverse. This is the third grade version, anyway.
firechyld
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What are you basing that statement on? And have you actually asked any ex-strippers why they left the industry?
*shrug* I presume that they have an idea. I've never felt a need to quiz them on it. But they're both intelligent people. I'm sure they've figured it out.
BDSM. Mostly Mistressing. Some submissive work.
Again, what are you basing that on? Seems to be just the word of this one guy. Have you asked any sex workers, past or present, whether their life has been destroyed by their time in the industry?
My life certainly hasn't been destroyed. I don't see it happening at any point in the foreseeable future, either. Quite the opposite.
What definition are YOU using? Seems to be that anything involving the sex industry is "bad", even if its profitable and enjoyable for the participants.
You acting like a third grader?!:noway::shocked:
Well, try and find yourself a decent and righteous man to marry, see if you can find one. A decent man would turn you down after he finds out that you are a tramp.
As far as the washed up hookers who are addicted to drugs and alcohol, it is quite obvious that they are lying if they tell you that they are happy about their lives and how they turned out.
More info about the realities of the sex industry can be found here:
http://www.adultssavingkids.org/Default.html
Shimei, self-righteous prudes such as yourself are in no position to dispense with advice, much less advice vis a vis relationships. I'm not sure how one is a "tramp" if they are "formerly" involved in the sex industry. (This certainly didn't matter to the Christian right when they salivated over Linda Lovelace's denounciation of the porn industry.)
Sorry, but this mind reader act of yours has gotten real old. In a way I'm glad you people are so uptight: when you become a walking caricature, nobody takes you seriously anymore.
Obviously he was lying. He's very proficient at it. He used to call himself a Christian, if you remember.
"Right, I should try and be more like you."
No, not at all. Be yourself. But if you happen to be a self-righteous prude, your loss.
"Don't know about Linda Lovelace, but if she repented then she is forgiven."
How generous.
"Then why do you keep responding?"
Because it's easy (and entertaining) to hit a slow-moving target. That and you seem like a glutton for punishment.
Then this peanut gallery shout-out from Blizzard Boy Brandon:
"He used to call himself a Christian, if you remember."
Actually, you flabby minimum-wage pew groveler, I WAS (unless you buy into the conspiracy theory that for unknown reasons I masqueraded on TOL for a solid YEAR before revealing my "true" Keyser Soze identity).
I happen to be free from the psycho circus of the Christian faith now and couldn't be happier.
:devil:
No, not at all. Be yourself. But if you happen to be a self-righteous prude, your loss.
"Don't know about Linda Lovelace, but if she repented then she is forgiven."
How generous.
"Then why do you keep responding?"
Because it's easy (and entertaining) to hit a slow-moving target. That and you seem like a glutton for punishment.
Then this peanut gallery shout-out from Blizzard Boy Brandon:
"He used to call himself a Christian, if you remember."
Actually, you flabby minimum-wage pew groveler, I WAS (unless you buy into the conspiracy theory that for unknown reasons I masqueraded on TOL for a solid YEAR before revealing my "true" Keyser Soze identity).
I happen to be free from the psycho circus of the Christian faith now and couldn't be happier.
:devil: