PneumaPsucheSoma
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And Grossy... You're on ignore. Whatever you're saying, I'm not clicking on them with any regularity. So you're talking to the air.
I now know where all the progressive millennials get their victim mentalities and entitlement, having seen it first hand amongst so many on this thread and across TOL who are among the local elite of MADs, etc.
It's a sad endictment that everything is always everybody else's fault when you stand for false doctrine, especially that which blasphemes God.
And Grossy... You're on ignore. Whatever you're saying, I'm not clicking on them with any regularity. So you're talking to the air.
There is a point to this thread. There are times when spamers need to be called out for spaming without letting it be a distraction in the original thread.There's no REAL point to this thread. I think it's designed for a free for all?
Because you are a wolf, an accuser of the brethren, a puffed up fraud-even you know it, tubby Simon.Why would I leave?
There is a point to this thread. There are times when spamers need to be called out for spaming without letting it be a distraction in the original thread.
I'm curious to know...
Who are spammers, specifically?
Is john w a spammer, with all his incessant ranting nonsense virtually every time he posts?
Are the others in the "pack" of MADists who constantly yuck it up spammers?
Is Grossy a spammer as he pads his post count with thousands of one-liners?
Or is it just those who disagree with a certain group or call out false doctrinal innovations?
There is a point to this thread. There are times when spamers need to be called out for spaming without letting it be a distraction in the original thread.
Thank you for your reply. One small point.
Just for those who may not know: I have NEVER said any Calvinist is unsaved simply because he/she is a Calvinist. I have invariably said that as abominable as I find Reformed theology to be (so we reciprocate there, too), the Gospel of grace is the power of God unto salvation that ANY may believe, and I know many Calvinists who say that is the Gospel they do believe. So if someone says they've believed it -- as you have -- then I have no authority to doubt it but rather must accept it.
Thanks again for your reply!
Chrysostym specifically asked those who don't know what they're talking about (relative to details of doctrine and terminology, etc.). No, they should not speak if they don't know what they're talking about.
I know that comes as a shock to those who don't know what they're talking about who are advocating that those who don't know what they are talking about should address all the things they don't know anything about, but those who don't know what they're talking about should not speak about what they don't know anything about.
That should make sense to anyone.
How are you even crossing this up? Chrystostym asked about those who don't know what they're talking about. Do you those who don't know what they're talking about somehow includes the Father and His Son?
Scripture is full of words with Hebrew and Greek foundations for translation. If someone doesn't know what those words mean according to valid lexicography as breathed by the Spirit of God through holy men of God, then they should not speak, and should instead learn before doing so.
Wow is right. God inspired the very words of scripture in both Hebrew and Greek. Their appropriate translation without MISperception and MISrepresentation is important.
None of that has to do with "correcting 'your' God and 'your' Lord Jesus Christ". It's the opposite, standing for the truth of the Word and the Spirit against innovations of man for tangents of untruth in their uninspired words.
This is simple. Anyone advocating for synergy for F/S/HS is applying a term that represents Tritheism, assails the attributes of God, and is an employment of innovation and arrogant superimposition. Odd how you turn that upside down in favor of others declaring their blasphemy.
ANSWER: perichoresis, monergism, synergy, synergism, mogerist, mogerism, etc.what if they don't know what they are talking about?
Then they should not speak. And if corrected 582 dozen times with lexical excerpts, etc., one is without excuse.
They should not speak????? Are you serious?????
Well, I summon then that according to PPS the Lord should not speak either for these 'elevated' words were NON-existent when He was here.
Is that how many times PPS would correct my God and my Lord Jesus Christ as there is no evidence that He used these 'elevated' words that PPS demands MUST be used by everyone otherwise they are reprobates????? Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow!
The Gospel of Jesus Christ alone has the power to save, not all that might be printed in various bibles.
Exhortations being:
Accumulating some knowledge of the original Greek language, enables one to discern whether the bible they are studying, or the teacher they listen to, or their friends who profess faith in Christ, are all truly conveying the Truth of God in their witness of the Gospel.
That's exactly what Nang believes, she's a hereticIs that what you're saying, that a person cannot be saved by reading a Bible in their native language all alone in a desert island somewhere?
Still blaming someone else for your grievous and unrecanted theological error and blasphemy.
You're not a victim. You're the perpetrator, to which I responded. But I know your pride can never understand that simple absolute fact.
It was YOUR damnable words regarding F/S/HS that were the problem. Mine were appropriate, and remain valid. I simply have recanted pronouncement of reprobation on a widespread basis for those in confessional fellowship with a local valid Body of the church.
Are you in fellowship with a local body?
And there's a difference between agreeing someone is saved. I simply won't any longer declare you as unsaved.
But you acting as though you were attacked when you came to this thread advocating for Tritheism and withstanding ANY correction is a sad endictment against you in any regard.
I get it. Everything is always someone else's fault.
Perichoresis was used by some theologians of the incarnation (Christ with two natures) before it was used of the Trinity.the Incarnation
He couldn't cut it as a real doctorYou have an uncanny lack of perception and logic. I find that, most interesting. One would think, as a so-called, "Doctors Assistant" it would be the opposite?
You are welcome, brother. And I appreciate your candor and willingness to extend the hand of fellowship to another that may disagree on some matters.
In another recent thread concerning JWs, the question was raised (by PPS) concerning where the line in the sand must be drawn. For me there are around seven or so that I look to when considering the professing vs. possessing state of another:
My response is repeated here for convenience:
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For me, there are seven essentials that divide Christian from non-Christian:
1. the Trinity: the Godhead eternally exists in three personal subsistences—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—and that these three are one God, having precisely the same nature, attributes, and perfections, and worthy of precisely the same homage, confidence, and obedience
(Matt. 28:18-19; Mark 12:29; John 1:14; Acts 5:3-4; 2 Cor. 13:14; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 1:4-6)
2. the full deity and humanity of Christ—one Person, two natures—one fully human nature, one fully divine nature —natures that cannot be mixed, confused, divided, or separated
(Luke 1:30-35; John 1:18; 3:16; Heb. 4:15; Luke 2:40; John 1:1-2; Phil. 2:5-8)
3. the spiritual lostness of the human race
(Gen. 1:26; 2:17; 6:5; Pss. 14:1-3; 51:5; Jer. 17:9; John 3:6; 5:40; 6:35; Rom. 3:10-19; 8:6-7; Eph. 2:1-3; 1 Tim. 5:6; 1 John 3:8)
4. the substitutionary atonement and bodily resurrection of Christ
(John 1:11; Acts 2:22-24; 1 Tim. 2:6; John 1:29; Rom. 3:25-26; 2 Cor. 5:14; Heb. 10:5-14; 1 Pet. 3:18; John 20:20; Phil. 3:20-21; Heb. 1:3; Eph. 1:22-23; Heb. 7:25; 1 John 2:1)
5. salvation by faith alone in Christ alone with assurance of eternal security
(Lev. 17:11; Isa. 64:6; Matt. 26:28; John 3:7-18; Rom. 5:6-9; 2 Cor. 5:21; Gal. 3:13; 6:15; Eph. 1:7; Phil. 3:4-9; Titus 3:5; James 1:18; 1 Pet. 1:18-19, 23; John 1:12; 3:16, 18, 36; 5:24; 6:29; Acts 13:39; 16:31; Rom. 1:16-17; 3:22, 26; 4:5; 10:4; Gal. 3:22; John 5:24; 10:28; 13:1; 14:16-17; 17:11; Rom. 8:29; 1 Cor. 6:19; Heb. 7:25; Luke 10:20; 22:32; 2 Cor. 5:1, 6-8; 2 Tim. 1:12; Heb. 10:22; 1 John 5:13; 1 John 2:1-2; 5:13; Jude 24)
6. the physical return of Christ
(Deut. 30:1-10; Isa. 11:9; Ezek. 37:21-28; Matt. 24:15-25:46; Acts 15:16-17; Rom. 8:19-23; 11:25-27; 1 Tim. 4:1-3; 2 Tim. 3:1-5; Rev. 20:1-3); and
7. the authority and inerrancy of Scripture
(Mark 12:26, 36; 13:11; Luke 24:27, 44; John 5:39; Acts 1:16; 17:2-3; 18:28; 26:22-23; 28:23; Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 2:13; 10:11; 2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Pet. 1:21).
I am not laboring under a delusion that the above cannot be improved or quibbled over. I hesitate to have a list as it often gives the wrong impression that genuine non-essentials exist within Holy Writ. I am confident God was not a waster of words given to the writers of the Bible via the superintendence of the Holy Spirit, hence one should consider all the teachings of Scripture as essential per se. That said, I do think we believers should have at least some specific "lines in the sand" or "hills to die upon" concerning these things.
AMR
He couldn't cut it as a real doctor
If you are claiming that John W's post never get moved here for spamming I think a lot of people will laugh at you!I'm curious to know...
Who are spammers, specifically?
Is john w a spammer, with all his incessant ranting nonsense virtually every time he posts?
Are the others in the "pack" of MADists who constantly yuck it up spammers?
Is Grossy a spammer as he pads his post count with thousands of one-liners?
Or is it just those who disagree with a certain group or call out false doctrinal innovations?