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Grosnick Marowbe

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I now know where all the progressive millennials get their victim mentalities and entitlement, having seen it first hand amongst so many on this thread and across TOL who are among the local elite of MADs, etc.

It's a sad endictment that everything is always everybody else's fault when you stand for false doctrine, especially that which blasphemes God.

Explain what you just said? It's a wee bit incoherent.
 

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So far today, you were asked to give a "Testimony of faith," you refused. Then, you were asked to explain the "Grace Gospel" and you refused. Evidently, you can't or won't answer reasonable questions.
 

john w

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Why would I leave?
Because you are a wolf, an accuser of the brethren, a puffed up fraud-even you know it, tubby Simon.

And I would be insulting the apostle Paul, "the apostle of the Gentiles"(Romans 11:13 KJV), my teacher, who speaks for the Lord Jesus Christ, in this dispensation(a great biblical word, rebel), through the Holy Spirit, as backed up, verified, by the "volume of the book," if I pretended that I cannot see through such clowns, such as yourself, with your recent "nice guy" acting scam, on your recent "posts."

I don't care how "nice" a dispensational Paul despiser, and thus Lord Jesus Christ despiser, such as yourself, junkie Simon, pretends to be, acts, "nice."The devil is "nice," also. That is because he is smarter than most drones, trolls, who listen to this fraud Pneumonia Simon. The devil knows that most of the babes, sheep, are suckers, for a "nice" routine. The pope is "nice." The Mahatma was "nice." "Mother" Theresa, Angelica, were "nice." Arafat looked so sweet, and innocent, on the cover of "Time Magazine," when he was "holed up" in his terrorist bunker. That is how you get Gentiles to side with terrorists, who killed hundreds of Americans, in 9/11/2001, against the Jews of Revelation 12. That is how you set up Revelation 13. You set them up with "kindness." And finally, Mohammad Ali was "nice." And Ali was leading people to hell, like "The Pied Piper."

And that is how you defend the wicked Roman Catholic "priests," who like to molest little Catholic boys, and others: you tell the district attorney, that he does not have any "love," or "forgiveness," in his Jeremiah 17:9 KJV heart. Yes-most people are morons(check out "the" Greek on that word, folks).

It is too late in the game, for most to be playing "pattycake, pattycake" with this puffed up, alleged scholar, a simply conveyed truth despiser, such as this Pneumonia Simon junkie, polecat,who have access to the same plain, in English, scripture of truth, as he does, to negotiate with this clown-we don't negotiate with children of the devil, much like we never negotiated with Communists. Every scribe, which is instructed, by the testimony of the LORD God, through the simple, pure, right, word of God, and chooses to attack that testimony, asserting that you cannot "understand" the book, w/o our "scholarly" "hep," with his propozons, aleph's, unicials, concordances, "the" Greek......and all that jazz, is a rat. He is a liar, and the LORD God despises liars-survey Proverbs 6:16-19 KJV.


Remember, tubby, junkie Pneumonia Simon-"Theo" loves you, and so does "Theo Kojak," baby, being a "the" Greek," and all.............
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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There is a point to this thread. There are times when spamers need to be called out for spaming without letting it be a distraction in the original thread.

I'm curious to know...

Who are spammers, specifically?

Is john w a spammer, with all his incessant ranting nonsense virtually every time he posts?

Are the others in the "pack" of MADists who constantly yuck it up spammers?

Is Grossy a spammer as he pads his post count with thousands of one-liners?

Or is it just those who disagree with a certain group or call out false doctrinal innovations?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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I'm curious to know...

Who are spammers, specifically?

Is john w a spammer, with all his incessant ranting nonsense virtually every time he posts?

Are the others in the "pack" of MADists who constantly yuck it up spammers?

Is Grossy a spammer as he pads his post count with thousands of one-liners?

Or is it just those who disagree with a certain group or call out false doctrinal innovations?

Don't try and figure it out, just go with it. A "Spammer" like anything else, is in the eye of the beholder. If a poster doesn't like what another poster has to say or how they present what they have to say, then, to them that person is a "Spammer." Can't you see the simple logic of this thread?

You, by your own admission, don't care for Dispensationalists. Therefore, you consider Dispensationalists to be Spammers in the first degree. Others, including myself, aren't too crazy about you. Therefore, we think you're a Spammer. Understand??
 

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Thank you for your reply. One small point.


Just for those who may not know: I have NEVER said any Calvinist is unsaved simply because he/she is a Calvinist. I have invariably said that as abominable as I find Reformed theology to be (so we reciprocate there, too), the Gospel of grace is the power of God unto salvation that ANY may believe, and I know many Calvinists who say that is the Gospel they do believe. So if someone says they've believed it -- as you have -- then I have no authority to doubt it but rather must accept it.


Thanks again for your reply!

You are welcome, brother. And I appreciate your candor and willingness to extend the hand of fellowship to another that may disagree on some matters.

In another recent thread concerning JWs, the question was raised (by PPS) concerning where the line in the sand must be drawn. For me there are around seven or so that I look to when considering the professing vs. possessing state of another:

My response is repeated here for convenience:

Spoiler

For me, there are seven essentials that divide Christian from non-Christian:

1. the Trinity: the Godhead eternally exists in three personal subsistences—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—and that these three are one God, having precisely the same nature, attributes, and perfections, and worthy of precisely the same homage, confidence, and obedience

(Matt. 28:18-19; Mark 12:29; John 1:14; Acts 5:3-4; 2 Cor. 13:14; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 1:4-6)

2. the full deity and humanity of Christ—one Person, two natures—one fully human nature, one fully divine nature —natures that cannot be mixed, confused, divided, or separated

(Luke 1:30-35; John 1:18; 3:16; Heb. 4:15; Luke 2:40; John 1:1-2; Phil. 2:5-8)

3.
the spiritual lostness of the human race

(Gen. 1:26; 2:17; 6:5; Pss. 14:1-3; 51:5; Jer. 17:9; John 3:6; 5:40; 6:35; Rom. 3:10-19; 8:6-7; Eph. 2:1-3; 1 Tim. 5:6; 1 John 3:8)

4. the substitutionary atonement and bodily resurrection of Christ

(John 1:11; Acts 2:22-24; 1 Tim. 2:6; John 1:29; Rom. 3:25-26; 2 Cor. 5:14; Heb. 10:5-14; 1 Pet. 3:18; John 20:20; Phil. 3:20-21; Heb. 1:3; Eph. 1:22-23; Heb. 7:25; 1 John 2:1)

5. salvation by faith alone in Christ alone with assurance of eternal security

(Lev. 17:11; Isa. 64:6; Matt. 26:28; John 3:7-18; Rom. 5:6-9; 2 Cor. 5:21; Gal. 3:13; 6:15; Eph. 1:7; Phil. 3:4-9; Titus 3:5; James 1:18; 1 Pet. 1:18-19, 23; John 1:12; 3:16, 18, 36; 5:24; 6:29; Acts 13:39; 16:31; Rom. 1:16-17; 3:22, 26; 4:5; 10:4; Gal. 3:22; John 5:24; 10:28; 13:1; 14:16-17; 17:11; Rom. 8:29; 1 Cor. 6:19; Heb. 7:25; Luke 10:20; 22:32; 2 Cor. 5:1, 6-8; 2 Tim. 1:12; Heb. 10:22; 1 John 5:13; 1 John 2:1-2; 5:13; Jude 24)

6. the physical return of Christ

(Deut. 30:1-10; Isa. 11:9; Ezek. 37:21-28; Matt. 24:15-25:46; Acts 15:16-17; Rom. 8:19-23; 11:25-27; 1 Tim. 4:1-3; 2 Tim. 3:1-5; Rev. 20:1-3); and

7.
the authority and inerrancy of Scripture

(Mark 12:26, 36; 13:11; Luke 24:27, 44; John 5:39; Acts 1:16; 17:2-3; 18:28; 26:22-23; 28:23; Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 2:13; 10:11; 2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Pet. 1:21).


I am not laboring under a delusion that the above cannot be improved or quibbled over. I hesitate to have a list as it often gives the wrong impression that genuine non-essentials exist within Holy Writ. I am confident God was not a waster of words given to the writers of the Bible via the superintendence of the Holy Spirit, hence one should consider all the teachings of Scripture as essential per se. That said, I do think we believers should have at least some specific "lines in the sand" or "hills to die upon" concerning these things.

AMR
 

lifeisgood

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Chrysostym specifically asked those who don't know what they're talking about (relative to details of doctrine and terminology, etc.). No, they should not speak if they don't know what they're talking about.

I know that comes as a shock to those who don't know what they're talking about who are advocating that those who don't know what they are talking about should address all the things they don't know anything about, but those who don't know what they're talking about should not speak about what they don't know anything about.

That should make sense to anyone.



How are you even crossing this up? Chrystostym asked about those who don't know what they're talking about. Do you those who don't know what they're talking about somehow includes the Father and His Son?

Scripture is full of words with Hebrew and Greek foundations for translation. If someone doesn't know what those words mean according to valid lexicography as breathed by the Spirit of God through holy men of God, then they should not speak, and should instead learn before doing so.



Wow is right. God inspired the very words of scripture in both Hebrew and Greek. Their appropriate translation without MISperception and MISrepresentation is important.

None of that has to do with "correcting 'your' God and 'your' Lord Jesus Christ". It's the opposite, standing for the truth of the Word and the Spirit against innovations of man for tangents of untruth in their uninspired words.

This is simple. Anyone advocating for synergy for F/S/HS is applying a term that represents Tritheism, assails the attributes of God, and is an employment of innovation and arrogant superimposition. Odd how you turn that upside down in favor of others declaring their blasphemy.

QUESTION: What were we talking about before chrysostom asked

what if they don't know what they are talking about?
ANSWER: perichoresis, monergism, synergy, synergism, mogerist, mogerism, etc.


PPS’s wisdom and knowledge and longsuffering and agape love came to fore:
Then they should not speak. And if corrected 582 dozen times with lexical excerpts, etc., one is without excuse.


BEING THAT perichoresis, monergism, synergy, synergism, mogerist, mogerism, etc. DID NOT exist in the time of Jesus walking on this earth and you, PPS, demand that such words be used; otherwise, people who do not use such ‘elevated’ words PPS condemns as "reprobates, Tritheist, and OUTSIDE of the faith"; the only conclusion that lifeisgood, can come up with is:
They should not speak????? Are you serious?????

Well, I summon then that according to PPS the Lord should not speak either for these 'elevated' words were NON-existent when He was here.

Is that how many times PPS would correct my God and my Lord Jesus Christ as there is no evidence that He used these 'elevated' words that PPS demands MUST be used by everyone otherwise they are reprobates????? Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow!

Is PPS declaring that lexical excerpts now are the final arbiter of God's correction since "if corrected 582 dozen times with lexical excerpts, etc., one is without excuse"?

Your 'elevated' words are showing, PPS. Use YOUR 'elevated' words on yourself BEFORE you so vociferously fling them on the face of brothers and sisters in the Lord.

With your way of judging, PPS, all those SAVED by the Lord before YOU came along running with your 'elevated' words, according to YOUR way of judging, are reprobates, Tritheist, and OUTSIDE of the faith. What a way to judge the Lord, PPS. And the sad part is that you, PPS, don't even realize that you are judging the Lord.
 
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lifeisgood

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The Gospel of Jesus Christ alone has the power to save, not all that might be printed in various bibles.

Exhortations being:

Accumulating some knowledge of the original Greek language, enables one to discern whether the bible they are studying, or the teacher they listen to, or their friends who profess faith in Christ, are all truly conveying the Truth of God in their witness of the Gospel.

So, humor me, Nang, just for the sake of conversation, had it been that you were a castaway and not a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished work on the Cross of Calvary and perchance a Bible is right in front of you and perchance you dare to open it and perchance dare to read the words therein written (the Lord Himself preaching to you while you're reading His Holy Writ in that island where you are all alone --- BTW the Bible being in your native language), you cannot be saved?

Is that what you're saying, that a person cannot be saved by reading a Bible in their native language all alone in a desert island somewhere?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Still blaming someone else for your grievous and unrecanted theological error and blasphemy.



You're not a victim. You're the perpetrator, to which I responded. But I know your pride can never understand that simple absolute fact.

It was YOUR damnable words regarding F/S/HS that were the problem. Mine were appropriate, and remain valid. I simply have recanted pronouncement of reprobation on a widespread basis for those in confessional fellowship with a local valid Body of the church.

Are you in fellowship with a local body?

And there's a difference between agreeing someone is saved. I simply won't any longer declare you as unsaved.

But you acting as though you were attacked when you came to this thread advocating for Tritheism and withstanding ANY correction is a sad endictment against you in any regard.

I get it. Everything is always someone else's fault.

You have an uncanny lack of perception and logic. I find that, most interesting. One would think, as a so-called, "Doctors Assistant" it would be the opposite?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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You are welcome, brother. And I appreciate your candor and willingness to extend the hand of fellowship to another that may disagree on some matters.

In another recent thread concerning JWs, the question was raised (by PPS) concerning where the line in the sand must be drawn. For me there are around seven or so that I look to when considering the professing vs. possessing state of another:

My response is repeated here for convenience:

Spoiler

For me, there are seven essentials that divide Christian from non-Christian:

1. the Trinity: the Godhead eternally exists in three personal subsistences—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—and that these three are one God, having precisely the same nature, attributes, and perfections, and worthy of precisely the same homage, confidence, and obedience

(Matt. 28:18-19; Mark 12:29; John 1:14; Acts 5:3-4; 2 Cor. 13:14; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 1:4-6)

2. the full deity and humanity of Christ—one Person, two natures—one fully human nature, one fully divine nature —natures that cannot be mixed, confused, divided, or separated

(Luke 1:30-35; John 1:18; 3:16; Heb. 4:15; Luke 2:40; John 1:1-2; Phil. 2:5-8)

3.
the spiritual lostness of the human race

(Gen. 1:26; 2:17; 6:5; Pss. 14:1-3; 51:5; Jer. 17:9; John 3:6; 5:40; 6:35; Rom. 3:10-19; 8:6-7; Eph. 2:1-3; 1 Tim. 5:6; 1 John 3:8)

4. the substitutionary atonement and bodily resurrection of Christ

(John 1:11; Acts 2:22-24; 1 Tim. 2:6; John 1:29; Rom. 3:25-26; 2 Cor. 5:14; Heb. 10:5-14; 1 Pet. 3:18; John 20:20; Phil. 3:20-21; Heb. 1:3; Eph. 1:22-23; Heb. 7:25; 1 John 2:1)

5. salvation by faith alone in Christ alone with assurance of eternal security

(Lev. 17:11; Isa. 64:6; Matt. 26:28; John 3:7-18; Rom. 5:6-9; 2 Cor. 5:21; Gal. 3:13; 6:15; Eph. 1:7; Phil. 3:4-9; Titus 3:5; James 1:18; 1 Pet. 1:18-19, 23; John 1:12; 3:16, 18, 36; 5:24; 6:29; Acts 13:39; 16:31; Rom. 1:16-17; 3:22, 26; 4:5; 10:4; Gal. 3:22; John 5:24; 10:28; 13:1; 14:16-17; 17:11; Rom. 8:29; 1 Cor. 6:19; Heb. 7:25; Luke 10:20; 22:32; 2 Cor. 5:1, 6-8; 2 Tim. 1:12; Heb. 10:22; 1 John 5:13; 1 John 2:1-2; 5:13; Jude 24)

6. the physical return of Christ

(Deut. 30:1-10; Isa. 11:9; Ezek. 37:21-28; Matt. 24:15-25:46; Acts 15:16-17; Rom. 8:19-23; 11:25-27; 1 Tim. 4:1-3; 2 Tim. 3:1-5; Rev. 20:1-3); and

7.
the authority and inerrancy of Scripture

(Mark 12:26, 36; 13:11; Luke 24:27, 44; John 5:39; Acts 1:16; 17:2-3; 18:28; 26:22-23; 28:23; Rom. 15:4; 1 Cor. 2:13; 10:11; 2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Pet. 1:21).


I am not laboring under a delusion that the above cannot be improved or quibbled over. I hesitate to have a list as it often gives the wrong impression that genuine non-essentials exist within Holy Writ. I am confident God was not a waster of words given to the writers of the Bible via the superintendence of the Holy Spirit, hence one should consider all the teachings of Scripture as essential per se. That said, I do think we believers should have at least some specific "lines in the sand" or "hills to die upon" concerning these things.

AMR

I have NO problem with your 7 requirements. The problems that plague me about you is, once you add Calvinism into the mix, you and I must part ways. Calvinism (according to the Nangster) teaches that one must first be REGENERATED then, they receive SAVING FAITH. Whereas, the Bible states in Romans 10:17 "So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." If one desires faith, they will find it in the written word of God. (The Holy Bible.)

The Bible is a Holy Spirit inspired book. Becoming a member of the Body of Christ is a Spiritual process and work of the Holy Spirit. One hears the GRACE GOSPEL, then, either places their faith in Christ as their Savior or they reject the Gospel of Grace. Calvinists, such as yourself, believe that humanity has NO free-will of its own. Yet, throughout the Old/New Testaments we see, quite the opposite. Once one hears the GRACE GOSPEL and places ALL their faith in Christ, they are sealed, indwelt, and baptized (not by water) into the Body of Christ. During that SPIRITUAL process, they receive the RIGHTEOUSNESS of Christ and inherit eternal life. That life cannot be lost. The "True Believer" is sealed by the Holy Spirit.

Calvinism preaches that before the foundation of the world, God CHOSE who He would save (The Elect) and condemned the rest to eternal damnation. This is a "False doctrine." The Bible states, 1 Timothy 2:4 "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth." That's NOT just talking about the "so-called Elect." Christ died and paid the price for the sins of the ENTIRE human race. However, only those who place ALL their faith in Christ as their Savior will reap the benefits of that loving act/gift.

Calvinism would have us believe: Christ ONLY died for the so-called "Elect." Yet, another false doctrine.
 

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I'm curious to know...

Who are spammers, specifically?

Is john w a spammer, with all his incessant ranting nonsense virtually every time he posts?

Are the others in the "pack" of MADists who constantly yuck it up spammers?

Is Grossy a spammer as he pads his post count with thousands of one-liners?

Or is it just those who disagree with a certain group or call out false doctrinal innovations?
If you are claiming that John W's post never get moved here for spamming I think a lot of people will laugh at you!
 
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