ECT Should any Assurance of salvation be expected without Full Repentance?

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You didn't answer my question.

I believe I did.

Paul told the convicted Philippian jailor to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and he would be saved. And the Bible says he was. I've done the same thing Paul told him to do. Are you saying I am not saved?

Paul spoke the gospel truth that could only be made effective in one's life if he truly repented. I believe, on face value, the jailer did so.

Have you done so? __ completely? If not, answer your own question.
 

musterion

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By the way.

Oatmeal confessed brotherhood in Christ with charismatic Catholics based solely on the testimony that their tongues sound just like his do.

Do you believe charismatic, tongues-talking Catholics are saved?
 

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By the way.

Oatmeal confessed brotherhood in Christ with charismatic Catholics based solely on the testimony that their tongues sound just like his do.

Do you believe charismatic, tongues-talking Catholics are saved?

And you want to say they aren't ??

"I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings." Jer. 17:10
 

Lon

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Webster's Dictionary:

Repentance: the action or process of repenting especially for misdeeds or moral shortcomings

Repent: to feel or show that you are sorry for something bad or wrong that you did and that you want to do what is right (repent-ing then, is the action of feeling/showing sorrow and doing right)

I'm guessing then "full" means genuine, not fake or half-hearted. No idea since I'm not the author here.
 
Does it even make sense to anybody one can come to Christ, without turning from sin and evil? Do these forums ever get past doctrinal milk?

2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
 

Redeemed-777

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Yeowser, it should be expected from dose who are
filled with UNBELIEF in what the Scriptures clearly teach.

Vich is almost everyone who attend today's Laodicean churches (ref. Revelation 3:14-22).
 

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Webster's Dictionary:

Repentance: the action or process of repenting especially for misdeeds or moral shortcomings

Repent: to feel or show that you are sorry for something bad or wrong that you did and that you want to do what is right (repent-ing then, is the action of feeling/showing sorrow and doing right)

I'm guessing then "full" means genuine, not fake or half-hearted. No idea since I'm not the author here.

Why would anyone suppose that their "sinners prayer" could ever sustain their salvation except leadership convincing them "easy believism repentance" and serving the church would be sufficient?
 

Doom

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Webster's Dictionary:


Repent: to feel or show that you are sorry for something bad or wrong that you did and that you want to do what is right (repent-ing then, is the action of feeling/showing sorrow and doing right)
Not really.

"For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death." 2 Cor 7:10
 

oatmeal

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By the way.

Oatmeal confessed brotherhood in Christ with charismatic Catholics based solely on the testimony that their tongues sound just like his do.

Do you believe charismatic, tongues-talking Catholics are saved?

I answered your question

Just one more question, please.

Charismatic "A" is an evangelical who believes in salvation by grace through faith alone in Christ alone, to the express exclusion of works for salvation. He speaks in tongues.

Charismatic "B" is a Catholic who believes in salvation by grace through faith in Christ, plus works that are vital to salvation. He speaks in tongues, too.

Both are saved?

You can neither read nor admit to your own question
 

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Knowing that I was dead because of sin and in need of life. Turning (repenting) from trusting in my own righteousness to accepting His.

If you were dead you were never trusting in anything. So your words are just that,__ words, i.e., meaningless platitudes.
 

Doom

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"For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death." 2 Cor 7:10
Yes ___and?? Which side do you come down on?
Knowing that I was dead because of sin and in need of life. Turning (repenting) from trusting in my own righteousness to accepting His.
If you were dead you were never trusting in anything. So your words are just that,__ words, i.e., meaningless platitudes.
I love it when a fool like you gets exposed. You don't know Jesus from Adam.

2 Cor 1:9 "Indeed, we had the sentence of death within ourselves so that we would not trust in ourselves, but in God who raises the dead"

Eph 2:1 "And you were dead in your trespasses and sins"

Rom 5:12 "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned"

Luke 18:9 "And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous"
 

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Knowing that I was dead because of sin and in need of life. Turning (repenting) from trusting in my own righteousness to accepting His.I love it when a fool like you gets exposed. You don't know Jesus from Adam.

You have more stuff with you than a holiday turkey. Who do think you are kidding with that canned shallow 'testimony'? You enjoyed your sin as everyone does. What, perhaps, you feared more was fryng for it all and someone persuaded you to join their church and become an usher and everything would be OK. Bingo!, you were off the hook.
 
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