Shots fired near Cal Sate University Northridge; students receiving reverse 911 calls

TomO

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It's probably because violence tends to correlate with poverty, and New England has somewhat higher median incomes and that sort of thing.

Yeah....It's a demographics thing. These things usually are. :plain:
 

Granite

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There are a plethora of stringent gun laws in Illinois.

But lots of guns. That's the whole point, right?:think:

More guns=less crime.

Isn't the implication that guns themselves inherently lead to a safer place? That whole "armed society is a polite society" claptrap?

Or maybe, just maybe, this oh-so-simple prebaked-for-NRA formula isn't as brilliant as people seem to think.
 

bybee

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But lots of guns. That's the whole point, right?:think:

More guns=less crime.

Isn't the implication that guns themselves inherently lead to a safer place? That whole "armed society is a polite society" claptrap?

Or maybe, just maybe, this oh-so-simple prebaked-for-NRA formula isn't as brilliant as people seem to think.

That is not the implication. Since criminals and mad men will always have weapons I feel safer if I have a way to protect myself from them. It is just that simple.
You see conspiracies of conservative evil everywhere you turn.
 

Granite

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That is not the implication. Since criminals and mad men will always have weapons I feel safer if I have a way to protect myself from them. It is just that simple.
You see conspiracies of conservative evil everywhere you turn.

No, what I see is bad thinking. "More guns less crime" simply makes no sense.
 

ok doser

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No, what I see is bad thinking. "More guns less crime" simply makes no sense.



consider this scenario: a nut with a gun comes onto a gun-free zone and starts shooting people


who stops him?

a. a guy with a knife
b. a guy who knows kung fu
c. a guy who tells him "Hey! You can't do that here! This is a gun-free zone!"
d. a guy with a gun
 

rexlunae

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consider this scenario: a nut with a gun comes onto a gun-free zone and starts shooting people


who stops him?

a. a guy with a knife
b. a guy who knows kung fu
c. a guy who tells him "Hey! You can't do that here! This is a gun-free zone!"
d. a guy with a gun

The problem is, that's the rare case. That's the outlier. If you own a gun, you are more likely to hurt yourself or someone you didn't intend to than you are to stop a crime.
 

ok doser

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The problem is, that's the rare case. That's the outlier. If you own a gun, you are more likely to hurt yourself or someone you didn't intend to than you are to stop a crime.

it's always a guy with a gun


unfortunately, it's usually a cop with a gun, who takes precious minutes to get there
 
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