Scott Roeder is NOT a murderer 4 killing baby-killer

rocketman

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was it evil for the French resistance to kill Nazis?

Were the French in open warfare with the Nazi's? Not a good parallel ok d, I like most in the country are sickened by abortion and those that could perform one but, it does not constitute pre-meditated murder...sorry, can't align with that at all.
 

ok doser

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Were the French in open warfare with the Nazi's?

no - the legal government of France had surrendered to the Germans - the resistance was operating extra-judicially

Not a good parallel ok d

I disagree - an evil government was opposed by those operating extra-judicially

our government is just as evil - no, more evil - as the Nazi government was - they killed what - 10 million in the concentration camps?


how many babies have been slaughtered?
 

rocketman

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no - the legal government of France had surrendered to the Germans - the resistance was operating extra-judicially



I disagree - an evil government was opposed by those operating extra-judicially

our government is just as evil - no, more evil - as the Nazi government was - they killed what - 10 million in the concentration camps?


how many babies have been slaughtered?

So, you intend to justify so-called Christians engaging in pre meditated murder of sinners? I guess I missed the scripture on that.

Rom. 12:17 Repay no one evil for evil. Respect what is honorable in the sight of all men.

Rom. 12:21 ¶ Don’t be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
 

Rusha

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Comparing doctors to drivers in get away cars during bank robberies is outrageously unfair and stupid, Rusha ! A totally specious ,invalid comparison !

Oh, and pretending that abortions only happen to poor women with health issues is ... BRILLIANT!

Doctors are in the profession of healing, not harming ...

Anyone who performs an abortion is NOT living up to that standard.

Answer this ... you have one several occasions indicated that "no one wants an abortion". You have also claimed that abortions happen because women are poor.

Feel free to step up and explain why "no one really wants abortion".
Feel free to explain why a person's financial status defines the value of an unborn baby.

Go ahead.
 

badp

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A horrendous tragedy happened about three years ago in Ireland because of the illegality of abortion .
A young pregnant woman from India who was living there at the time had a miscarriage . The doctors refused to perform an abortion on her fetus, which had no chance of surviving .
She spent three days dying in agony ! If they had not just sat there, , she would be alive today, and might have been able to have more children . This is why emergency abortions MUST be legal .

You're spewing crap and can't provide a single piece of evidence to back up your assertions that abortion is medically necessary. You are no more qualified to comment on the topic than a homeless drunk is qualified to perform brain surgery.
 

kiwimacahau

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You're spewing crap and can't provide a single piece of evidence to back up your assertions that abortion is medically necessary. You are no more qualified to comment on the topic than a homeless drunk is qualified to perform brain surgery.

Nope, if anyone here is spewing crap it's you. This women died in Ireland because they would not abort the foetus that was killing her. THAT is a fact.
 

The Horn

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Pregnant women in the last stages of a pregnancy don't just capriciously decide to have abortions . Let''s face it - medical emergencies happen because of complications from a variety of different causes , and a fetus is no longer viable.
If the doctors do not perform an emergency abortion , the woman will die and there is no other way to save her life .
This is why late term abortions MUST be legal . I'm not making this up . Situations like this happen more often than you realize .
 

brewmama

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Pregnant women in the last stages of a pregnancy don't just capriciously decide to have abortions . Let''s face it - medical emergencies happen because of complications from a variety of different causes , and a fetus is no longer viable.
If the doctors do not perform an emergency abortion , the woman will die and there is no other way to save her life .
This is why late term abortions MUST be legal . I'm not making this up . Situations like this happen more often than you realize .

That's BS, pure and simple. It's much quicker to get the baby out alive than to stop and kill it first.
 

brewmama

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A horrendous tragedy happened about three years ago in Ireland because of the illegality of abortion .
A young pregnant woman from India who was living there at the time had a miscarriage . The doctors refused to perform an abortion on her fetus, which had no chance of surviving .
She spent three days dying in agony ! If they had not just sat there, , she would be alive today, and might have been able to have more children . This is why emergency abortions MUST be legal .

A miscarriage is by definition an abortion, so your post doesn't even make sense.
 

WizardofOz

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looks like you can't discern between one thing and another.

according to your logic, capital punishment is murder

killing terrorists is murder

:think:
:liberals:
Um, no. Where did you get that idea? Neither of those are murder as they are not illegal...
 

ok doser

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So, you intend to justify so-called Christians engaging in pre meditated murder of sinners? I guess I missed the scripture on that.

Rom. 12:17 Repay no one evil for evil. Respect what is honorable in the sight of all men.

Rom. 12:21 ¶ Don’t be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

so the french resistance wasn't justified in killing nazis?

if you had the opportunity to stop susan smith before she murdered her children, and the only way possible was by violent action, would you be justified?

were the police justified in shooting the terrorists in san bernadino? - isn't that repaying evil with evil?
 

ok doser

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Nope, if anyone here is spewing crap it's you. This women died in Ireland because they would not abort the foetus that was killing her. THAT is a fact.

and if the fetus had been murdered, you're 100% sure she would have lived?
 

Ktoyou

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George Tiller saved the lives of many women whose pregnancies had gone horribly wrong and who would have died without an abortion . Their fetuses were not viable .[/QUOTE]

See, you always say the dumbest things!
 

Ktoyou

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George Tiller saved the lives of many women whose pregnancies had gone horribly wrong and who would have died without an abortion . Their fetuses were not viable .

See, you always say the dumbest things!
 

quip

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Feel free to step up and explain why "no one really wants abortion".
Feel free to explain why a person's financial status defines the value of an unborn baby.

Go ahead.

Sure.

Former: Because either the women in question didn't desire pregnancy from the getgo thus, abortion becomes a seeked necessity or health issues forced them into a die-or-abort situation. Neither of which could honestly claim that they "really wanted" said abortion.

Latter: non-sequitur :idunno:
 

Rusha

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Sure.

Former: Because either the women in question didn't desire pregnancy from the getgo thus, abortion becomes a seeked necessity or health issues forced them into a die-or-abort situation. Neither of which could honestly claim that they "really wanted" said abortion.

That has nothing to do with Horn's claim. He is suggesting that abortion is traumatic and thus, not wanted.

IF he or any other pro-abortion advocate truly believe abortion is just like any other medical procedure, there would be no regret.
 

quip

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That has nothing to do with Horn's claim. He is suggesting that abortion is traumatic and thus, not wanted.

That plays into what I described. Abortion or the idea of it, may indeed be traumatic for some women. If so, that would be an expected reason to avoid it.

IF he or any other pro-abortion advocate truly believe abortion is just like any other medical procedure, there would be no regret.

"Regrets" are subjective. Some probably do regret aborting; some perhaps regret not aborting. By those standards, abortion is not just like any other medical procedure though, from a strict procedural perspective...it's quite routine.
 

The Horn

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You're all WRONG . There are some situations where neither the baby or the woman will survive unless the doctors perform an emergency abortion .
But if the doctors perform the abortion, the woman WILL survive and
probably be able to have more children later . The fetus MUST be sacrificed to save a woman's life . This is the right thing to do ,
and the government has absolutely no right to decree that a woman must die because of a pregnancy gone wrong .
 
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