SABBATH KEEPING

[God's Truth]

and when your fruits look MORE like His we will all know you are indeed loving Him...

I can’t help notice how often you cherry pick through most but certainly these scriptures...always leaving out 1 John 2:6

He who says he abides in Him should also live as He lived.

understandable as to why you ignore this one...

No, accuser, I ignore none of the scriptures.

 

[God's Truth]

faith alone can...

You are against God who says faith alone can't.

 

[clefty]

You keep with the dishonesty and I won’t discuss with you any more.

I don’t debate dishonest people.

You complained about a typo I made and I told you that I hadn’t had that many in 80,000 posts.

So what does the Catholic’s pope have to do with anything?

You wish to brag on how many posts you posted the pope likes to talk about how many follow him...

good for all his millions and billions and good for you your 80,000...but the path remains narrow for a reason...a remnant remain not a majority

 

[God's Truth]

Is why FAITH and now in HIM changes the heart of stone to flesh to be circumcised...

You say things that are against what God does say.

People have to repent of their sins.

Even obedience does NOT mean LOVE...ask a any parent who has a child that obeys but does NOT Love[
Or any citizen who obeys but does NOT LOVE this country...

Or any neglected wife who obeys but does NOT LOVE...

You really have made yourself an enemy of God.

God says plainly that obedience is love.

Your analogies are not from God.

 

[God's Truth]

You wish to brag on how many posts you posted the pope likes to talk about how many follow him...

good for all his millions and billions and good for you your 80,000...but the path remains narrow for a reason...a remnant remain not a majority

That is just more accusations and you know where those come from.

 

[God's Truth]

You do not wish to know you wish to mock and redicule...

I do no such thing.

And this after I defended you to those MADDER than you...how rude can you get?

When did you do that?

All I have seen is you accusing me to be one of them and you feeling brave to speak the worst to me and not them.

You are welcome for affirming that believing Jews had every right to be upset with Paul IF and ONLY IF Paul taught:

“every day is Holy eat whatever and never die”

of course that would make believing Jews upset at Paul because that is NOT what Yahushua taught...

Luke said Jews were indeed claiming it was taught “Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered”

but even Luke made clear it was FALSE WITNESS designed to stir up the Jews and SLANDER poor Stephen

who did NOT teach that because Jesus DID NOT do that...

because if He did then Luke was a liar...it would be TRUE WITNESS what the slandering Jews accused Stephen of

Those who don't understand what Jesus did by fulfilling the Law and the Prophets go against Stephen and Paul.

 

[clefty]

Galatians 5:4 You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

This text is NEVER invoked when a Christian says:

I serve only God...
I dont make idols
I do not blaspheme
I honor my parents
I do not kill
I do not commit adultery
I do not steal
I do not lie
I do not covet...

In fact they are congratulated and affirmed that they Love Jesus and keep His commandments...and are good proper Christians...

Only when one says “I remember the seventh day Sabbath to keep it Holy” does it all explode...

then suddenly it is “YOU FALL FROM GRACE...you're trying to EARN salvation...you’re trying to be justified by the law..."

or "the OT Law was abolished...changed...there's a NEW ONE....REEEEEEE!!!!" LOL



Sabbath is NOT even a ceremonial or purification work it is a day off...lol...but ONE of the 10...and YET..."NO! NO! NO!....NOT FOR ME"

Despite Yahushua saying it is made for man and not just the Jews...or Kingdom of Israel...or NOT for the body of Christ...

Gal 5:13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. ​

14For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

so I am just trying to do that...to love my neighbor as myself JUST AS HE loved when teaching and demonstrating the New Covenant lifestyle before signing it with His blood and sealing it with his D when He gave me a Sabbath rest and clean food to eat...

but oh boy the resistance is severe...LOL...​

 

[clefty]

I only go by Jesus, not shadows.

except His Sabbath keeping...and teaching we do NOT the same as He did

I am a child of the light.

counterfeit light...Lucifer too brings light

You are in the shadows.

resting in His shade...

I have a powerful testimony of Jesus saving me.

spend more time posting on that then...write a book...He saved you when you were a sinner...to bad you do not wish to be MORE like Him His ways...

I will show you where you err. You do try to be justified by the old law, by shadows, because you claim you are right with God by honoring those things.

again and again you repeat this so threatened it might be true...LOL

No christians say “oh you dont steal? You are trying to earn salvation”...LOL or “you don’t kill? So you trying to get saved eh?” LOL or “so you do not believe in adultery? That is Jewish” LOL

Or “you wish to worship only Him?that is SOOOO OT...”

Or any variation of the other 9 Laws NOTHING about justifying or earning or works

but claim you keep the Sabbath and oh boy...how triggered and threatened and MAD they suddenly become...LOL

You even say that if you break the shadow works you are unclean for a day, or until you have a bath.

grace all grace...repentance and persevere...Mercy rather than sacrifice...

You have fallen away from Jesus not gotten closer to him

your judgement is seriously questionable...

This is some of your error:

nope thinking you had new stuff in your rebellion is my error...you don’t And now just repeat the same

You are not in grace. There is no doubt about it.

because living His way is learning more about Him?

Galatians 5:4 You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.

your big fat belly full of unclean is your god...

You sound like a demon.

Is what panicked Pharisees said even of Yahushua...

 

[clefty]

No, accuser, I ignore none of the scriptures.

You ignored that one...could have posted it but did not

something about living like He lived must make you hesitate posting it

certainly not apply it to your lifestyle

 

[clefty]

You are against God who says faith alone can't.

I literally just said it can and gave you an example millions hope for...that a loved one in their last breath has faith confesses and repents

that would they be spared you would NOTICE A CHANGE OF LIFESTYLE BECAUSE OF THAT CONFESSION OF FAITH

but alas they die...and their beloved ones can only hope that FAITH ALONE + HIS MERCY = Forgiveness and a sparing

 

[clefty]

You say things that are against what God does say.

Is why FAITH and now in HIM changes the heart of stone to flesh to be circumcised...

People have to repent of their sins.

or like you claim there is new law so what you do is no longer sin...LOL

You really have made yourself an enemy of God.

God says plainly that obedience is love.

Your analogies are not from God.

The older brother that stayed when the younger became a prodigal...waS bitter about his fathers celebration upon the younger return

Obedient BUT NOT LOVING

EXACTLY OT Jews

 

[clefty]

That is just more accusations and you know where those come from.

Reality and experience here with you...

 

[God's Truth]

I literally just said it can and gave you an example millions hope for...that a loved one in their last breath has faith confesses and repents

that would they be spared you would NOTICE A CHANGE OF LIFESTYLE BECAUSE OF THAT CONFESSION OF FAITH

but alas they die...and their beloved ones can only hope that FAITH ALONE + HIS MERCY = Forgiveness and a sparing

Faith alone is dead like a dead body.

That is what the scriptures say.

 

[clefty]

I do no such thing.

you asked what I do on Sabbaths and asked further info on my wife...

Both times it was for you to attack...

When did you do that?

post #246 Obviously you do not read but what is about you...

another reason I should just leave you to your reprobate heart...even He gave up...

All I have seen is you accusing me to be one of them and you feeling brave to speak the worst to me and not them.

they ignore me...you are brave or foolish enough to respond

And you are MAD just not as MAD as they are...LOL

Sabbath and your Bacon belly god has you claim the OT is “NOT TO ME”

Those who don't understand what Jesus did by fulfilling the Law and the Prophets go against Stephen and Paul.

Neither of which taught Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered that was Jewish false witness Luke said and reported Paul claim his innocence of such lying slander...

 

[God's Truth]

you asked what I do on Sabbaths and asked further info on my wife...

In your dreams.

Both times it was for you to attack...

You and others here are the ones who attack.

post #246 Obviously you do not read but what is about you...

I don't usually read posts that aren't to me.

another reason I should just leave you to your reprobate heart...even He gave up...

I don't believe you ever stood up for me. You are dishonest.

they ignore me...you are brave or foolish enough to respond

What is that supposed to mean?

How is it brave or foolish to reply to your post?

And you are MAD just not as MAD as they are...LOL

Sabbath and your Bacon belly god has you claim the OT is “NOT TO ME”

The truth is far from you it means nothing to you.

Neither of which taught Jesus changed the customs Moses delivered that was Jewish false witness Luke said and reported Paul claim his innocence of such lying slander...

You don't understand the scriptures or know God.

 

[clefty]

In your dreams.

knew you would deny...classic reprobate heart move there...

Implying I lie...yup even He gave up on ones like you...

You and others here are the ones who attack.

boo hoo was merely providing evidence why I refuse to reveal more personal stuff to one such as you...based on REAL experience

I don't usually read threads that aren't to me.

I already said that...your narcissism bores easily

I don't believe you ever stood up for me. You are dishonest.

dishonest? Wow...

Read post #246

You just show more and more why I should 2 John 1:10

You do NOT have the doctrine of Christ with which you have both the Father and the Son.

You divide them Father with OT law vs Son New Law...

You have nothing new to show of your “NOT FOR ME” rebellion...

And your Jewish false witness has run its course to mere attempts to slander and repeated cliches you have programmed yourself to deceive yourself...

“every day Holy...eat whatever...never going to die” is another gospel another christ...

Not the doctrine of Christ...

What is that supposed to mean?

How is it brave or foolish to reply to your post?

...

The truth is far from you it means nothing to you.




You don't understand the scriptures or know God.

Yup...boring...your idolatry adulterates the same old ways...even Satan believes but does NOT obey...claims His way is “NOT FOR ME”...just like you...he seeks to change both times and law

 

[God's Truth]

knew you would deny...classic reprobate heart move there...

Implying I lie...yup even He gave up on ones like you...


boo hoo was merely providing evidence why I refuse to reveal more personal stuff to one such as you...based on REAL experience


I already said that...your narcissism bores easily


dishonest? Wow...

Read post #246

You just show more and more why I should 2 John 1:10

You do NOT have the doctrine of Christ with which you have both the Father and the Son.

You divide them Father with OT law vs Son New Law...

You have nothing new to show of your “NOT FOR ME” rebellion...

And your Jewish false witness has run its course to mere attempts to slander and repeated cliches you have programmed yourself to deceive yourself...

“every day Holy...eat whatever...never going to die” is another gospel another christ...

Not the doctrine of Christ...

Yup...boring...your idolatry adulterates the same old ways...even Satan believes but does NOT obey...claims His way is “NOT FOR ME”...just like you...he seeks to change both times and law

You sure got me wrong, and the scriptures.

Why do you keep bringing up 'boring'?

I think people who are bored are boring.

 

[Right Divider]

That is exactly what you do and what you are.

You cherry pick a scripture I give and throw out the rest.

Two lies in two sentences.... you're off to a great start.

Now show where Paul says he was given a revelation that Peter and the others didn't get.

Now show where Paul says he was given the exact same revelation that Peter and the others got.

See how that works?

Show the scripture where he says he is the minister of a different covenant.

Paul ministers no covenants. Paul says that the body of Christ (which needs and has no covenant) can minister the new TESTAMENT.... NOT OF THE LETTER.... but of the SPIRIT.

Since you see you can't, why not give up your false beliefs for God's Truth?

I believe God's Truth .... you blaspheme His name.

 

[clefty]

You sure got me wrong, and the scriptures.

Why do you keep bringing up 'boring'?

I think people who are bored are boring.

I "throw you to Satan" in hopes you repent 1 Cor 5:5 and you are more worried about being boring? LOL

and respond with a "I know you are but what am I"...

I expect more from you...is all

after all...you claim to abide in Him so you must live as He does...ask John

 

[God's Truth]

Two lies in two sentences.... you're off to a great start.


Now show where Paul says he was given the exact same revelation that Peter and the others got.

See how that works?


Paul ministers no covenants. Paul says that the body of Christ (which needs and has no covenant) can minister the new TESTAMENT.... NOT OF THE LETTER.... but of the SPIRIT.


I believe God's Truth .... you blaspheme His name.

You deny God and the covenant of the SPIRIT. That isn't you blaspheming?


Paul QUOTES JESUS making the New Covenant! And then PAUL SAYS he is the minister of the New Covenant. Not a different one---NO SUCH THING.

2 Corinthians 3:6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant--not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

1 Corinthians 11:24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, "This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me."
25 In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."


There is only one gospel, one covenant, and Jesus made the covenant of the Spirit, and Paul was a minister of it.