And James wrote to the twelve tribes dispersed abroad.
Robert's Gospel According to the Apostle Paul
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And James wrote to the twelve tribes dispersed abroad.
Yep.
I am not sure about what you said being that this was Hosea, but it sounds interesting enough to have put my stock in it.
yup we put on immortality...like a coat...we are not made immortal...only ONE is immortal even His Son was begotten AFTER Him...and now Eternal but not Immortal...
WAS there because John was shown that it was there...
good and good...
yup given to man like everything else created that week...given as a gift to WHOSOEVER He loved...given as a first act of grace for times of toiling by the sweat of his brow...to help man like the woman also created for man given as a gift...some men reject both woman and the sabbath...choosing substitutes
right...exactly...and taught and modelled by Him as part of the New Covenant lifestyle BEFORE He signed it in His blood and SEALED it with His death...after the testator dies the testament and last will CAN NOT BE CHANGED...even in the secular world...and yet man changed it brazenly changing both times and laws...
and by fulfilled you mean made void removed no longer there all forms of destroying it which He EXACTLY said NOT to think...
The greek word for fulfill PLEROSIA is used 3 other times:
Matt 3:15 it is to us to fulfill all righteousness
Romans 15:13 the God of hope fill you with all
Colossians 1:25 to fulfill the word of God
Now read back DESTROY into those texts...is righteousness destroyed? The God of hope destroys you? To destroy the word of God?
Certainly NOT...we establish Law...His
sabbath was NOT in the way...breaking the Law made a curse against you...and ordinance specific to you like a ticket...or bill...THAT was took out of the way...as it was handwritten and held against you...
he "broke down the middle wall of partition."...right...the WALL and NOT THE SABBATH...in fact of ALL the commandments it was the ONLY one that included goyim to receive it...animals too...so even the Sabbath broke down the middle wall of partition that seperated goyim from jews...giving both rest...WHAT GRACE
He specifically instructed DO as the pharisees teach from Moses’ seat not as they do...they taught Sabbath keeping...
right it didnt need repeating as it was NEVER IN QUESTION as to being kept
yes as they forgot who they were and what they were to do as Abraham’s seeds descendant from Adam whose first full day was a sabbath...it was a sign of His people...perpetual...Isaiah even affirms future Sabbath keeping in the new world to come...
You do realize the commandments are descriptions of what life is like where “I AM” yes? So where Yah is there is NO stealing murdering adultery lying coveting another god to worship idols false names or parents dishonored...see?
So some of us understanding that are practicing for that time when it is “on earth as it is in heaven” when His will IS done...
Oh my...4 things were required of the goyimm crowding the synagogue ALL FOUR of which were already in the OT required of goyim saved with them from Egypt...
3 of the 4 dealt EXACTLY with the dietary laws...please don’t rationalize that NOT offering swine to an idol or NOT strangling a swine but killing it kosher and draining all of its blood made the swine clean to eat...
Oh and James the brother of Yahushua concluded that these believing goyim crowding into synagogues would INDEED hear Moses preached in every city on EVERY SABBATH...
So SPECIFICALLY the dietary Laws and the Sabbath WERE INDEED expected as part of the goyim’s lifestyle in the New Covenant age...the irony
Well I have heard gays claim that Paul said the OT laws were all abolished...we live by grace alone...
Woman like the Sabbath was made for man, given as a gift, to help man...what GRACE...yet some men reject both woman and the Sabbath...
You know...as too OT or something...
Stop your kvetching...
Have you heard the jewish false witness they sought to slander both Stephen and Paul with?
You know the jewish fable of Yahushua changing the law and customs of Moses?
Yup...that was FALSE...meaning that Stephen and Paul did NOT preach or live like the laws where changed...ironic no?
Silly jews...and sillier christians paying heed to any jewish fables...Titus 1:14
nope goyim jumped in crowding synagogues to hear Moses read every Sabbath...just like when the church was in the wilderness...goyim were there received Sabbath rest as it was ONE LAW for goyim and native
to Israel including the goyim in your gates...
right which you took from Sinai to jerusalem IN VAIN for NAUGHT monopolizing and hording the blessing for yourselves NOT BEING A BLESSING TO ALL NATIONS...in fact you charged such huge TAXES to worship at the temple the rest of israel couldn’t afford it and worshipped on high places around Judea...fell into idolatry and civil war until Yah wiped the mess up into babylon...only jews came back ISRAEL VANISHED
prolly cuz not jewish enough for you...
speak clearly...jews are neither ethnic nor a religion...Chinese jews African jews German jews Spanish jews Semitic non Semitic...atheist jews Buddhist jews
a real jew would agree He had no son but would not say Allah was His name...
so you are not a real jew...
oh I do accept former jews who believe that but believing that former jews are turned into former jews...because IN HIM there is NO jew or goyim...just a new creature a citizen of Israel His people...grafted in where jews were cut off for there unbelief and disobedience...
asked and answered...jew is NOT His people Israel as the nation of Israel is not His people since they reject His Son
in that synagogue do you worship a god who had a son? Do you worship that son in that synagogue? If NOT then it is synagogue of satan
LOL...you wonder why you don’t? TRY...don’t be ashamed of His Name or gospel...
exactly jews DO NOT like christmas because it annoys them to think goyim are celebrating their god had a son born of a virgin who let all the goyim back into the synagogues to worship Him and His Father...LOL...to jews that is idolatry...duh
LOL...because you reject that in HIM there is NO MORE JEWS...and jews reject HIM that...
Jews like most christians have replaced the very wall HE tore down seperating jews form goyim...now we have christians even claiming there are TWO WAYS into heaven...two classes of citizens national religious Zionist israel and the body of christ or something like something...
For centuries even the Roman Catholic teaching was jews were to be converted...but jews rejected conversion and since Vatican 2 the church changed biblical teaching that the wall seperating jew and goyim was destroyed IN HIM and NOW replaced it allowing jews their own path into heaven...and now we got even more MADness
but to be fair Zionism began with christian intent to help the jew...and to convert...since the emancipation proclamation that allowed jews full citizenship do good christian wished to aid jews in Palestine and elsewhere to grow strong and flourish...well scofield his bible and those behind him sure helped them their TWO HOUSE ways...
And now we have you...TOL’s very own Jacob the supplanter...ex christian dispenSENSATIONAL convert to jew...poetic dontcha think?
No, they weren't.
So far, exactly. But for Abraham's sake, God WILL have mercy on them. And will gather them from all nations.tetelestai said:
Peter didn't write to the lost 10 tribes. Peter wrote to the church, which ALL believers are "sojourners" and "pilgrims";tetelestai said:
1 Peter 1:1-2 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To God's elect, strangers in the world, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia, 2 who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance.
tetelestai said:
You should be able to by now.
Not regarding the reward of the righteous. THAT is a future event, irrevocably established by the statements; "these all died in faith, NOT HAVING RECEIVED THE PROMISES". ALL righteous, from Creation to the 2nd coming, will be rewarded simultaneously.. when Christ reaches the clouds on his way BACK to the earth.
Not yet. Some things have, not all.tetelestai said:
Yessir .... this is a rare event .... you are right!tetelestai said:
Not even remotely. The world is getting worse, not THESE conditions;tetelestai said:
Isa 11:1-4 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord;
3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
Isa 11:9-11 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea. 10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. 11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
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Isa 2:4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Sigh ... I don't see any options for editing. I now see the ability to "thank"... which wasn't there before.
Ask Tam, she will help you.
That's the point.
Those people were the descendants of the 10 tribes.
They were aliens from the Commonwealth of Israel. Because God had divorced them, scattered them, had no mercy on them, and told them they were "not a people".
Eph 2:12-15 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Go back and read 1 Peter 2:10:
(1 Peter 2:10) Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
Peter cannot be addressing Gentiles, and he cannot be addressing Jews.
Peter was addressing the descendants of the 10 tribes from the House of Israel.
The 10 tribes were the only people in the OT who were told they were "not a people", and that God would have no mercy on them.
No, they were Greeks, and Romans, etc.
Of course he is addressing Gentiles!!tetelestai said:
Tam?? Who's Tam? Sorry, I'm still a newbie here.... LOL
Yes, that's because 500 years earlier, God scattered those Israelites amongst the Gentile nations.
After 500 years, they couldn't be distinguished from a Gentile.
You have to remember, before God scattered, they had become so wicked by acting like Gentiles.
God never told the Gentiles they were "not my people". That was only told to the 10 tribes from the House of Israel.
Read Hosea chapter 1
(Gen 48:19) 9 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
In the above, Jacob puts his hands on Joseph's son Ephraim. Jacob then says that the descendants of Ephraim will become a multitude of nations.
Can you name all the nations that the descendants of Ephraim became?
Now, let's look what Ezekiel said:
(Ezk 37:19) Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
The New Covenant made by Christ Jesus was when the stick of Joseph (that was in Ephraim's hand) was joined with the stick of Judah.
Ephraim had become a multitude of nations at that point.
It makes the 10 tribes into Gentiles. They were mixed in with them. They became a multitude of nations.
If I'm wrong, just list the multitude of nations that the descendants of Ephraim became?