Robb Elementary School shooting

ok doser

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Pretty much.

I can see the need for law enforcement to control the scene, but I also saw how poorly they were responding to the parents begging them to do something.
The only reason you "saw" that is that you were shown it repeatedly by the mainstream media which sensationalizes incidents like this in order to get you to watch repeatedly so that they can sell you advertising.
Too many children dead, too many left with memories that will haunt them for a lifetime.
Yes that's what they told you repeatedly while they were selling you advertising.

The deaths that they didn't tell you about that occur everyday, primarily in Black communities, to black victims, the deaths that you are unaware of, you don't care about. You haven't been told to think that those were "too many" so you don't think that they are "too many." As far as you are concerned they won't be "too many" until you are made to believe it by the people who tell you what to think.

Baaaaa
 

marke

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We have seen at least two different kinds of people unafraid to rush into danger to save the innocent under attack: Mothers seeking to protect their own children and Christian police officers willing to risk their own deaths to save innocent people they have sworn to serve and protect.
 

annabenedetti

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We have seen at least two different kinds of people unafraid to rush into danger to save the innocent under attack: Mothers seeking to protect their own children and Christian police officers willing to risk their own deaths to save innocent people they have sworn to serve and protect.

We also saw teachers die defending their students. The very same teachers who are routinely vilified for being part of the 'godless public school system.' It doesn't matter what religion a teacher, a mother, or police officer is when they risk or lay down their life for another. Many have walked the walk of John 15:13 without ever opening a bible.
 

annabenedetti

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Every examination of the shooting and the police reaction in the town of Uvalde, Texas, only seems to make things worse. Not only has the story of the events been shifting since the first day, every one of those shifts seems to be toward greater levels of both staggering incompetence and something that’s very difficult to distinguish from plain old cowardice.

On Friday, The New York Timesexplained more of how the first moments of the tragic shooting unfolded. And, surprise ... It’s worse.

Worse as in the chief of the school district police arrived on the scene just two minutes after the shooting began, and—lacking a police radio—the chief got on a cellphone and left a message for the remainder of the Uvalde police over a landline. That message: “The gunman has an AR-15, he told them, but he is contained; we need more firepower and we need the building surrounded.”

That single message, delivered over the phone by the just-arrived chief of the school district police, would become the operating order of the day. No one countered it. No one overruled it, even as more shots—and pleading phone calls—came from the room where the gunman was “contained.” And that chief, who commanded a six-person team with no experience handling such a situation, would remain the officer in charge throughout the next hours.

When a tactical team of border control officers eventually breached the door, they did so not because Uvalde police had reevaluated. They went in against the orders of that chief, who was ordering them to stop right up until the last second.

Despite lacking a police radio, and apparently having no experience at all with either hostage or active shooter situations, that phone call made Chief Pete Arredondo the incident commander. His regular command was not the actual Uvalde Police, but just the six-person school district police.

It’s now known that police from at least 14 different jurisdictions and agencies arrived on the scene in the following hour, crowding into the hallway outside the room where the shooter was executing children. That absolutely included the Uvalde Police, who were allegedly trained to handle exactly the kind of active shooter situation underway. No one ever seems to have suggested that an officer with more knowledge take charge.

Arredondo’s order held. Even though the police in the hallway, and both parents and police gathered outside, could still hear “sporadic gunfire” from inside the room, no one tried to go in. No one tried to go in even though there were getting calls like this from 10-year-old Khloie Torres, who whispered into her phone from inside the room.

“There is a lot of bodies. I don’t want to die, my teacher is dead, my teacher is dead, please send help, send help for my teacher, she is shot but still alive.”

. . . .

The police department is by far the largest expense in the town of Uvalde, Texas, consuming over 40% of the town’s budget. For a town of just 13,000 residents, it somehow justifies the expense of a SWAT team. This wasn’t a matter of Barney Fife fumbling in his pocket for a single bullet. These were supposedly well-trained and definitely well-equipped officers on the scene—standing outside a door, and very definitely listening as people were being executed.

When that door was finally opened, it didn’t take some kind of battering ram. It took a janitor’s key.

The group that finally went in wasn’t a SWAT unit. They weren’t from Uvalde. They were an “ad hoc” group containing members of two federal agencies, along with a sheriff’s deputy, who simply couldn’t stand it anymore. “They were done waiting for permission,” said one member of the group.

But as they started to go in, they got a direct order from the police on the scene. That order was “Do not breach.” By that time, there were over 140 police on hand. And the order was still not to go in.

They ignored the order, entered the room, and killed the gunman.
 

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Every examination of the shooting and the police reaction in the town of Uvalde, Texas, only seems to make things worse. Not only has the story of the events been shifting since the first day, every one of those shifts seems to be toward greater levels of both staggering incompetence and something that’s very difficult to distinguish from plain old cowardice.

On Friday, The New York Timesexplained more of how the first moments of the tragic shooting unfolded. And, surprise ... It’s worse.

Worse as in the chief of the school district police arrived on the scene just two minutes after the shooting began, and—lacking a police radio—the chief got on a cellphone and left a message for the remainder of the Uvalde police over a landline. That message: “The gunman has an AR-15, he told them, but he is contained; we need more firepower and we need the building surrounded.”

That single message, delivered over the phone by the just-arrived chief of the school district police, would become the operating order of the day. No one countered it. No one overruled it, even as more shots—and pleading phone calls—came from the room where the gunman was “contained.” And that chief, who commanded a six-person team with no experience handling such a situation, would remain the officer in charge throughout the next hours.

When a tactical team of border control officers eventually breached the door, they did so not because Uvalde police had reevaluated. They went in against the orders of that chief, who was ordering them to stop right up until the last second.

Despite lacking a police radio, and apparently having no experience at all with either hostage or active shooter situations, that phone call made Chief Pete Arredondo the incident commander. His regular command was not the actual Uvalde Police, but just the six-person school district police.

It’s now known that police from at least 14 different jurisdictions and agencies arrived on the scene in the following hour, crowding into the hallway outside the room where the shooter was executing children. That absolutely included the Uvalde Police, who were allegedly trained to handle exactly the kind of active shooter situation underway. No one ever seems to have suggested that an officer with more knowledge take charge.

Arredondo’s order held. Even though the police in the hallway, and both parents and police gathered outside, could still hear “sporadic gunfire” from inside the room, no one tried to go in. No one tried to go in even though there were getting calls like this from 10-year-old Khloie Torres, who whispered into her phone from inside the room.



. . . .

The police department is by far the largest expense in the town of Uvalde, Texas, consuming over 40% of the town’s budget. For a town of just 13,000 residents, it somehow justifies the expense of a SWAT team. This wasn’t a matter of Barney Fife fumbling in his pocket for a single bullet. These were supposedly well-trained and definitely well-equipped officers on the scene—standing outside a door, and very definitely listening as people were being executed.

When that door was finally opened, it didn’t take some kind of battering ram. It took a janitor’s key.

The group that finally went in wasn’t a SWAT unit. They weren’t from Uvalde. They were an “ad hoc” group containing members of two federal agencies, along with a sheriff’s deputy, who simply couldn’t stand it anymore. “They were done waiting for permission,” said one member of the group.

But as they started to go in, they got a direct order from the police on the scene. That order was “Do not breach.” By that time, there were over 140 police on hand. And the order was still not to go in.

They ignored the order, entered the room, and killed the gunman.
Yes, but the Democrats get to use this story to push for gun control. So it's all worth it, right? What's a bunch of dead children compared to increased political power? I'll bet their first reaction upon hearing this story was not sadness, but joy.
 

ok doser

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Yes, but the Democrats get to use this story to push for gun control. So it's all worth it, right? What's a bunch of dead children compared to increased political power? I'll bet their first reaction upon hearing this story was not sadness, but joy.
Meanwhile, every day, every single day, 29 more dead American negroes

and nobody cares
 

annabenedetti

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Yes, but the Democrats get to use this story to push for gun control. So it's all worth it, right? What's a bunch of dead children compared to increased political power? I'll bet their first reaction upon hearing this story was not sadness, but joy.

Let's flip that script, in light of those conservatives who've already said "so what?" What's a bunch of dead children compared to their gun-totin' 2A rights? Those little kids are just collateral damage, the price paid for the freedom to own weapons of mass destruction. I'll bet the assault rifle defenders' first reaction upon hearing this story was to go buy more guns.
 
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ok doser

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Let's flip that script, in light of those conservatives who've already said "so what?" What's a bunch of dead children compared to their gun-totin' 2A rights? Those little kids are just collateral damage, the price paid for the freedom to own weapons of mass destruction.
The most effective weapon of mass destruction in the past 25 years:
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I'll bet the assault rifle defenders' first reaction upon hearing this story was to go buy more guns.
Gun sales have soared since the shooting and since Joe's been clacking his dentures and flapping his gums. And the gun sales have been going overwhelmingly to women and minorities who are finally realizing that the government isn't interested in keeping them safe.
 

ok doser

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... gun sales have been going overwhelmingly to women and minorities who are finally realizing that the government isn't interested in keeping them safe.
And the "assault rifle defenders" applaud this wholeheartedly. The more good guys with guns, the less opportunity for bad guys with guns to perpetrate their evil.
 

marke

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We also saw teachers die defending their students. The very same teachers who are routinely vilified for being part of the 'godless public school system.' It doesn't matter what religion a teacher, a mother, or police officer is when they risk or lay down their life for another. Many have walked the walk of John 15:13 without ever opening a bible.
Because sinners murder people of all kinds it is a fact that both unsaved and saved sinners will be murdered regardless of their religious or political beliefs. By allowing unsaved sinners to freely move in society the society risks inno0cent people being assaulted or murdered by sinners yielding to out-of-control wicked thoughts and motivations. No amount of purging of society of potential murder weapons will turn wicked sinners into civilized members of society and eliminate the risks of being murdered.
 

marke

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Every examination of the shooting and the police reaction in the town of Uvalde, Texas, only seems to make things worse. Not only has the story of the events been shifting since the first day, every one of those shifts seems to be toward greater levels of both staggering incompetence and something that’s very difficult to distinguish from plain old cowardice.

On Friday, The New York Timesexplained more of how the first moments of the tragic shooting unfolded. And, surprise ... It’s worse.

Worse as in the chief of the school district police arrived on the scene just two minutes after the shooting began, and—lacking a police radio—the chief got on a cellphone and left a message for the remainder of the Uvalde police over a landline. That message: “The gunman has an AR-15, he told them, but he is contained; we need more firepower and we need the building surrounded.”

That single message, delivered over the phone by the just-arrived chief of the school district police, would become the operating order of the day. No one countered it. No one overruled it, even as more shots—and pleading phone calls—came from the room where the gunman was “contained.” And that chief, who commanded a six-person team with no experience handling such a situation, would remain the officer in charge throughout the next hours.

When a tactical team of border control officers eventually breached the door, they did so not because Uvalde police had reevaluated. They went in against the orders of that chief, who was ordering them to stop right up until the last second.

Despite lacking a police radio, and apparently having no experience at all with either hostage or active shooter situations, that phone call made Chief Pete Arredondo the incident commander. His regular command was not the actual Uvalde Police, but just the six-person school district police.

It’s now known that police from at least 14 different jurisdictions and agencies arrived on the scene in the following hour, crowding into the hallway outside the room where the shooter was executing children. That absolutely included the Uvalde Police, who were allegedly trained to handle exactly the kind of active shooter situation underway. No one ever seems to have suggested that an officer with more knowledge take charge.

Arredondo’s order held. Even though the police in the hallway, and both parents and police gathered outside, could still hear “sporadic gunfire” from inside the room, no one tried to go in. No one tried to go in even though there were getting calls like this from 10-year-old Khloie Torres, who whispered into her phone from inside the room.



. . . .

The police department is by far the largest expense in the town of Uvalde, Texas, consuming over 40% of the town’s budget. For a town of just 13,000 residents, it somehow justifies the expense of a SWAT team. This wasn’t a matter of Barney Fife fumbling in his pocket for a single bullet. These were supposedly well-trained and definitely well-equipped officers on the scene—standing outside a door, and very definitely listening as people were being executed.

When that door was finally opened, it didn’t take some kind of battering ram. It took a janitor’s key.

The group that finally went in wasn’t a SWAT unit. They weren’t from Uvalde. They were an “ad hoc” group containing members of two federal agencies, along with a sheriff’s deputy, who simply couldn’t stand it anymore. “They were done waiting for permission,” said one member of the group.

But as they started to go in, they got a direct order from the police on the scene. That order was “Do not breach.” By that time, there were over 140 police on hand. And the order was still not to go in.

They ignored the order, entered the room, and killed the gunman.
Christian cop in Carthage, NC went alone into the rest home and confronted the active shooter. He got shot but also shot the mass murderer. Response time from the time of the call to the time the thug was shot: 5 minutes. To God be the glory.
 

marke

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Let's flip that script, in light of those conservatives who've already said "so what?" What's a bunch of dead children compared to their gun-totin' 2A rights? Those little kids are just collateral damage, the price paid for the freedom to own weapons of mass destruction. I'll bet the assault rifle defenders' first reaction upon hearing this story was to go buy more guns.
Ignorant and/or wicked propagandists have fooled millions of misguided Americans into believing that if guns are confiscated from good Americans then the bad hombres will stop shooting innocent people. Don't let the wicked propagandists turn you into a supporter of stupidity.
 

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And the "assault rifle defenders" applaud this wholeheartedly. The more good guys with guns, the less opportunity for bad guys with guns to perpetrate their evil.
The more Black XX DNA LGBTQIA+ people with assault weapons, the better, just generally.
 

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The Uvalde shooter couldn't legally buy a beer given his age, but he could legally buy the AR-15 that he used to shoot 21 people dead and 18 others injured--a total of 39 victims. Interesting, don't you think?


Even more insane than that is the fact that Texas law allows people to buy assault weapons at age 18, but pistols cannot be purchased until age 21.
 

marke

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Even more insane than that is the fact that Texas law allows people to buy assault weapons at age 18, but pistols cannot be purchased until age 21.
I bought my first gun at 12 and did not even need permission from a socialist government rules and oversight committee. I bought my first unregistered pistol at 14 and did not need a background check or permission from democrat party members in my town.
 

ok doser

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I bought my first gun at 12 and did not even need permission from a socialist government rules and oversight committee. I bought my first unregistered pistol at 14 and did not need a background check or permission from democrat party members in my town.
I bought the first gun with my own money at 18, a semi-automatic black rifle - a Remington Nylon 66. I've had it for 44 years, put thousands of rounds through it. Even though it's a Scary Black Rifle™ it has never snuck off in the middle of the night and killed anybody on its own. Guess I was just lucky enough to pick a good one. 😁
 

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I bought my first unregistered pistol at 14 and did not need a background check or permission from democrat party members in my town.
It was those Devil-worshipping RINOs in Texas who passed that law. Most Republicans are Devil-worshipping RINOs.
 

marke

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It was those Devil-worshipping RINOs in Texas who passed that law. Most Republicans are Devil-worshipping RINOs.
I don't know who passed the laws then but I know I was not affected by the laws. Americans who have already experienced freedom are not likely going to allow commie fascist oligarchs to strip them of their freedom by biased and unconstitutional edicts and laws.
 
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