beloved57
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Ask God. Now what kind of Gospel preacher preaches that sinners Christ tasted death for are still lost?
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Religious Subjectiveism and the Objective Gospel
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Eagles Wings
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Because God said so.
That is not really an answer. Next time hook up with a doctrine that you can defend.
beloved57
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Now what kind of Gospel preacher preaches that sinners Christ tasted death for are still lost?
Nanja
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Those who are accursed Gal. 1:8-9, who preach against the Gospel of God's Grace.
2 Tim. 1:8-9
8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God; 9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began
There is no grace in a God that condemns billions to hell because they were born after Adam.
You are obsessed with the idea that God choose you and condemned billions of others to hell. If God choose you, you would embrace his Gospel.
Were the Christ rejecting Pharisees saved? Blind one.
beloved57
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You teach that sinners Christ died for are still lost, denying the Saving death of Christ, that is unbelief!
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Nanja
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God's Grace is only to a remnant, the Election of Grace Rom. 11:5.
It's only after a person is given New Birth can they believe Gal. 5:22 the Gospel of God's Grace 2 Tim. 1:8-9.
No new birth without hearing and believing the Gospel, Romans 10:17.
Nanja
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Wrong order.
Hearing the Gospel, which is God's Words, is only made possible by those who are Born of God.
And believing / faith is a fruit of the Spirit given in New Birth Gal. 5:22.
Jesus said here:
John 8:43, 47
Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
So you see, man is utterly helpless to do anything whatsoever to make himself right with God Eph. 2:8-9.
Salvation doesn't depend on what a man does or does not do, but has already been determined by God before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9; Eph. 1:4-7.
Your doctrine is anti-Gospel. To teach that people should not respond to Christ and his Gospel was composed by some demon in hell.
Nanja
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Responding is a work. Salvation is not of works Eph. 2:9.
You are so decieved, void of understanding of God's Word because you are not of God John 8:47!
Salvation does not depend on anything a person does or does not do.
God's Elect were Justified from Everlasting!
He has Saved them Rom. 11:5, according to His Purpose and Grace, which was given them in Christ Jesus before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9.
Christ was made The Surety in the Everlasting Covenant Heb. 7:22; 13:20 for all those He would die for in Time!
His Perfect Will is immutable!
Why did John write?
"But as many as RECEIVED HIM, to them gave he the power to become Son's of God, even to them that believe on his name" John 1:12.
Nothing is yours until it is received by faith. Is this just another scripture that you are going to reject on your way to hell?
Nanja
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John 1:12-13
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Can you see that?
The Many which Believed on His Name had been Born of God!
To believe that God predestinates people to hell before they are born and to believe that Jesus did not atone for the sins of the world is evidence that you are lost.
Nanja
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Don't you believe those Christ shed His Blood for still wind up in hell for their sins?
beloved57
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Yes he does. So he denies that Christ is the Saviour!
Nanja
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Exactly Brother!
Christ is not your savior because you have never received him, John 1:12.