Sonnet
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Still to get back to you regarding polygamy and all the issues that cause doubt. Soon.
Rebuttal of the dreadful doctrine of reprobation
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Still to get back to you regarding polygamy and all the issues that cause doubt. Soon.
Sonnet
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Maybe his fear would have le him to deny belief in Christ...he wasn't actually asked specifically.
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"the spirit is willing but the is flesh weak". With Peter and any future Christian, that would eventually be rectified by the events of Acts 2, God's provision for His new born "children" per John 1:12..
God's Truth
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So you do not believe that it was fear that caused Peter to deny Jesus?
You do not believe it even though Peter denied Jesus right after Jesus was arrested.
That is not the only time Peter acted out of line with the truth.
Galatians 2:12 For before certain men came from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from the Gentiles because he was afraid of those who belonged to the circumcision group.
The circumcision group are the Jews.
Peter was afraid of the Jews because they would have people put to jail, tortured, and killed for preaching what they believed was against Judaism.
God's Truth
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Why would you deny Jesus before others? Is it because you would lose friends if they knew you believed in Jesus?
Sonnet
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I claimed that I wouldn't deny Christ.
Sonnet
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I agree that Peter acted in fear.
God's Truth
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Then why did you say because Peter denied Jesus?
God's Truth
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I am glad that you can see that now.
Sonnet
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I guess I should have been more accurate a said Peter denied being Jesus' disciple.
We might speculate that such fear might have led him to deny belief in Jesus.
God's Truth
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It is clear that Peter denied Jesus because Peter was afraid of being arrested, tortured, and killed.
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I am not following you. Peter denied knowing Christ. That covers denying being Jesus' disciple.
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What do you think a Christian is?
You do not believe in Christ?
God's Truth
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Sonnet, is it that you have denied Jesus, so now you think that Jesus would not forgive you?
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True spirituality does not focus on getting to heaven or hanging on til we get there, often called joining the "white knuckle club".
Trolls drown themselves. You're always trying to sting us with wolfish venom
THE TURTLE AND THE SCORPION !
A scorpion, being a very poor swimmer, asked a turtle to carry him on his back across a river. "Are you Scorpion mad?" exclaimed the turtle. "You'll sting me while I'm swimming and I'll drown."
"My dear turtle," laughed the scorpion, "if I were to sting you, you would drown and I would go down with you. Now where is the logic in that?"
"You're right!" cried the turtle. "Hop on!" The scorpion climbed aboard and halfway across the river gave the turtle a mighty sting. As they both sank to the bottom, the turtle resignedly said:
"Do you mind if I ask you something? You said there'd be no logic in your stinging me. Why did you do it?"
"It has nothing to do with logic," the drowning scorpion sadly replied. "It's just my character."
Lon
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So is your rejection of Christianity a rejection of Calvinism? Are you able to see a difference? Patrick asked a good question: You seem heavily vested in scriptures. I suppose college did a number on you, or you found you were having trouble with Noah's ark?
Is there a need to go further than 100 threads against Calvinism here on TOL? When would the last one 'finally have put Calvinism to rest?'
I've never understood the incessant attacks, but I'd never been this hard against Calvinism when I wasn't. It is a systematic theology that seeks to cogently tie together all scriptures in a manner that they make the most sense of all scriptures to the one holding to that framework. As such, we all have our systematic theologies and they are very much opposed to one another. I guess we do see crusades against every other one on TOL. I've seen it against Dispensationalism, Hyper-Dispensationalism, Open Theology, and Catholicism, and Orthodox. Most of us are Protestant. My family left the Catholic church. I didn't lose my faith over the matter because I could see the difference between an interpretation I believe wrong, and the scripture gospel. The question remains: why did you lose your faith over this?
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I agree. Calvinism needs to be put to rest for the damage it has caused within the Body of Christ.
