Racism in America

[aCultureWarrior]

Connie, no one cares about your revisionist histories. Even those who sympathize with you, are embarrassed by your paranoid fantasies and white supremest sources.

Ah yes, that white supremacist (the barbarian obviously doesn't teach Spelling in the school that he teaches in) Christian Post.

Since the barbarian doesn't want to talk about the racist NAACP and how they in 2000 filed an amicus curiae brief on behalf of Mumia Abu Jamal, the former Black Panther who murdered white police officer Daniel Faulkner in cold blood, I'd like to share the truth about this cold blooded cop killer who lefties like the barbarian are trying to free from jail.

(From the white supremacist website created by Officer Daniel Faulkner's wife) :

http://justice.danielfaulkner.com/summary-of-case-facts/
http://www.justice4danielfaulkner.com/frames.html

 

[aCultureWarrior]

And since I'm using white supremacist websites as my sources of information, I might as well go to conservapedia.com to find out more about NAACP founder W.E.B. Dubois.

William Edward Burghardt Du Bois (February 23, 1868 – August 27, 1963) was a prominent American civil rights activist, sociologist, historian and militant activist. He joined the Communist party and moved to Africa, where he was largely forgotten. DuBois was awarded the Stalin Peace Prize in 1959.

In 1909, Du Bois was a co-founder of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), which, according to Du Bois, "had a strong socialist element in its leadership in persons like Mary Ovington, William English Walling and Charles Edward Russell."[1] In 1911 he joined the Socialist Party, but in the following year's Presidential election endorsed Democrat Woodrow Wilson, who would repay his support by sending Du Bois to the Paris Peace Conference in 1919. Du Bois, however, remained a committed socialist, contributing regularly to the socialist press. Du Bois wrote that he "hailed the Russian Revolution of 1917."[2]

In 1927 Du Bois first visited the Soviet Union. He called the Soviet system "the most hopeful vehicle for the world." He spent the next 12 years as a Communist propagandist, trying (and failing) to convert the NAACP into a Communist front. In 1935 he published the book Black Reconstruction, a Marxist interpretation of the Reconstruction Era. The following year, Du Bois traveled to Nazi Germany, gushing that Hitler “showed Germany a way out when most Germans saw nothing but impenetrable mist,” explaining, “They have domestic peace after a generation of wars; they have a nation at work, after a nightmare of unemployment.” The same year, on a speaking tour (sponsored by Imperial Japan) of Manchukou (the Japanese puppet state in Manchuria) and Japan, Du Bois urged China to welcome the Japanese invaders as liberators.
In 1939, during the Hitler-Stalin pact, Du Bois agitated against U.S. aid to the allies; the Roosevelt Justice Department indicted him under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, whereupon the NAACP promptly fired him. When Germany turned on Russia in June 1941, Du Bois reversed course, becoming fanatically pro-war.

In 1942 DuBois signed a statement of the Citizens Committee to Free Earl Browder, general secretary of the Communist Party (and as the Venona transcripts later revealed the leader of a large Soviet espionage ring), who was then serving a four-year term for using false passports; President Franklin D. Roosevelt released Browder from most of his sentence as a gesture of goodwill to Stalin. DuBois also signed a letter protesting the arrest of Chilean poet and diplomat, Pablo Neruda, a Communist and Soviet agent who was briefly held on charges involving the conspiracy to assassinate Leon Trotsky.

In 1945, Du Bois was appointed associate consultant to the American delegation to the founding conference of the United Nations, under Secretary-General Alger Hiss. In April 1947 Du Bois signed a statement titled "We Negro Americans," which defended the Communist Party. In 1948 he protested the arrest of the twelve top Communist Party leaders. DuBois was also active in such fronts as the American Committee for Protection of the Foreign Born, the American Committee for a Democratic Greece, and the Civil Rights Congress. In addition, he supported Communist Party educational fronts like the Jefferson School of Social Science in New York and the California Labor School in San Francisco. In 1948 he signed an Appeal to the U.S. Government to End the Cold War and to confer with the Soviet Union; this was precisely at the time when the formation of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was being contemplated as a means of defending against the Soviet occupation of Eastern Europe, which had led to a Communist coup in Czechoslovakia.
http://www.conservapedia.com/W.E.B._DuBois

 

[Town Heretic]

While Town Heretic works on defending his beloved ACLU

I don't think I actually said anything about it, but it's a good idea. Are you just randomly running down your angry guy in the yard positions?

On your NAACP founded by socialists rant: just about everyone who founded this nation was a racist. And?

So you want to talk about the removal of God from our society?

You mean the appearance of God in our society? Because God is doing just fine in our house. How's he doing in yours?

How about we start with your beloved ACLU?

The ACLU has routinely defended Christians being unfairly denied the exercise of right and people in general, from the guy whose housing association wanted to pull down his American flag to the...you know what, I gave you a laundry list of many, many applications of the ACLU's efforts that demonstrated their point isn't an anti patriot or religious view, but here you are still pounding the drum.

So at this point your ignorance is of the willful sort. You don't have to agree with every stand by the ACLU any more than you have to agree with every idea that passes on the Hill, but both ideas and groups are good to have around. If you don't get that I can't help you.

ACLU POLICY
Opposition to school-sponsored prayer is a bedrock principle for the American Civil Liiberties Union.

Right. And school prayer as an assertion of authority for the body acting in loco parentis is a horrible idea. Do we alternate between Jewish, Muslim and various Christian prayers? And what about the kids whose parents aren't believers of any sort? Teach religion in church and at home. That said, no one can stop (or has tried to stop) any kid who wants to bow his head and pray.

As national board policy #81(a) states in part: "The ACLU believes that any program of religious indoctrination -- direct or indirect -- in the public schools or by use of public resources is a violation of the constitutional principle of separation of church and state and must be opposed."

Absolutely right. And that should keep your kids from being instructed in Catholic, Muslim, Hindu, Protestant or any other particular or general religious methodology while at school. I don't want Jack praying to some vague and nameless (g)od. No thanks. And thanks to the ACLU for seeing to it that he won't be asked to or pressured into or ostracized for not making an authority inspired attempt to proscribe his faith in my place.

Any Christian who doesn't support that hasn't thought it through sufficiently.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
So you want to talk about the removal of God from our society?

You mean the appearance of God in our society? Because God is doing just fine in our house. How's he doing in yours?

If I really wanted to make this post all about you, I could question how someone who supposedly has "God in his house" supports a sexual behavior that He abhors and wants to change an institution (marriage) that He ordained in Genesis, the very first book in the Old Testament.

But since I'm here to talk about racism in America and leftwing organizations that are responsible for it, I'll continue talking about the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

As we saw in the above post, the ACLU just doesn't want God anywhere near public school children. With all of the hatred that America has towards Blacks (aCW checks to see if race baiter B. Hussein Obama has told us that yet again today), one would think that the best way to overcome that hatred would be to allow God, whose 2nd greatest commandment is "Love thy neighbor as yourself" into the public arena.

Not only does the communist founded ACLU
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/01/04/unearthed-letters-link-aclu-founders-to-communist-party/
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/stokjok/Founders.html

not want God anywhere near school children (or court houses, etc. etc. etc.), they stoke the racial fire constantly by defending out and out racist/anti-Semitic groups in the name of "freedom of speech".

"In 1977 Frank Collin, the leader of National Socialist Party of America, announced the party's intention to march through Skokie, Illinois. In the predominantly Jewish community, one in six residents was a Holocaust survivor[citation needed]. Originally, the NSPA had planned a political rally in Marquette Park in Chicago; however the Chicago authorities blocked these plans by requiring the NSPA to post a public safety insurance bond and by banning political demonstrations in Marquette Park.

On behalf of the NSPA, the ACLU challenged the injunction issued by the Circuit Court of Cook County, Illinois that prohibited marchers at the proposed Skokie rally from wearing Nazi uniforms or displaying swastikas. The ACLU was represented by civil rights attorney Burton Joseph.[1][2] The challengers argued that the injunction violated the First Amendment rights of the marchers to express themselves."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

ACLU to defend Ku Klux Klan's bid to 'adopt' a highway
The ACLU of Georgia has agreed to represent a Ku Klux Klan organization that was turned down in its bid to "adopt" a section of Georgia highway, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports.

Debbie Seagraves, executive director for the ACLU of Georgia, tells the newspaper that the Klan reached out to the civil liberties group last week after the DOT rejected its application to participate in the statewide highway cleanup program in Union County.

"Yes, we are representing them, but we are still working on the strategy," she tells The Journal-Constitution, describing the case as a First Amendment issue...
http://content.usatoday.com/communi...-klans-bid-to-adopt-a-highway-/1#.VYq_hrPbIiQ

"A Missouri city is being sued by the Ku Klux Klan for the right to distribute racist literature by placing handbills onto the windshields of parked vehicles. And guess who is representing the white supremacists in court?

The American Civil Liberties Union – one of the oldest human right defending organizations in the US – has come to the aid of one of the oldest and most notorious American racist groups.

The Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan (TAK) is being prohibited by an ordinance of the city of Cape Girardeau, MO from distributing flyers onto cars parked in public places,the Courthouse News reports."
http://rt.com/usa/american-court-kkk-missouri-830/

Under that mask of hatred is most likely an ACLU lawyer (did I mention that the KKK was founded by democrats?).

 

[chair]

"In 1977 Frank Collin, the leader of National Socialist Party of America, announced the party's intention to march through Skokie, Illinois. In the predominantly Jewish community, one in six residents was a Holocaust survivor[citation needed]. Originally, the NSPA had planned a political rally in Marquette Park in Chicago; however the Chicago authorities blocked these plans by requiring the NSPA to post a public safety insurance bond and by banning political demonstrations in Marquette Park.

On behalf of the NSPA, the ACLU challenged the injunction issued by the Circuit Court of Cook County, Illinois that prohibited marchers at the proposed Skokie rally from wearing Nazi uniforms or displaying swastikas. The ACLU was represented by civil rights attorney Burton Joseph.[1][2] The challengers argued that the injunction violated the First Amendment rights of the marchers to express themselves."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie

I was there. Before the rally the ACLU held a meeting with Jews from the area, including myself, who were very upset- as I was. I was at the rally afterwards as well (it didn't last very long). Many of the ACLU lawyers were Jewish as well.

I was very upset at the ACLU at the time, though I do understand their basic idea (perhaps better today than back then): If you want to protect your own civil rights, you need to protect everybody's civil rights.

Chair

 

[aCultureWarrior]

I was there. Before the rally the ACLU held a meeting with Jews from the area, including myself, who were very upset- as I was. I was at the rally afterwards as well (it didn't last very long). Many of the ACLU lawyers were Jewish as well.

I was very upset at the ACLU at the time, though I do understand their basic idea (perhaps better today than back then): If you want to protect your own civil rights, you need to protect everybody's civil rights.

Chair

So who all of the sudden made hatred a "civil right"? Either we're going to celebrate racial/religious hatred in our country or not. You can't have it both ways.

 

[The Barbarian]

Connie is back in his manic phase, where he throws everything he can find, hoping that something might stick. This one is particularly interesting:

The American Civil Liberties Union – one of the oldest human right defending organizations in the US – has come to the aid of one of the oldest and most notorious American racist groups.

Yep. They've defended the right of Nazis, communists, Klan members, and other despicable people to march, meet, and otherwise exercise the same rights everyone else has.

Connie thinks right should only be given to the "good people." But he doesn't understand that taking rights away from anyone without due process is the way to despotism and horror.

It's the way government slowly pries rights away from us. "We're only going to do this to bad people." But eventually, the definition of "bad people" changes.

Connie has never been able to grasp that a government that can take rights from (for example, the people he calls "JBs") can take them away from anyone.

But his god is the government, so he can't see this. He thinks that his god would never turn on him.

 

[The Barbarian]

So who all of the sudden made hatred a "civil right"?

The Bill of Rights. For which you should be most grateful, Connie. Otherwise, you would be rooming with Bubba.

Either we're going to celebrate racial/religious hatred in our country or not.

Tolerating people like you is not celebrating them. We just recognize that if people like you are not allowed freedom of conscience, then decent people could also lose it. That's how it works. If you want freedom to think as you like, you have to extend that right to people, even people you don't like very much. You might want your freedom, and others to lose theirs. But you can't have it both ways.

 

[Town Heretic]

So you want to talk about the removal of God from our society?

If I really wanted to make this post all about you,

I'd have made it about me instead of using my house as an illustration of the short sighted nature of your complaint. And I wouldn't have gone on to ask you about your own.

I could question how someone who supposedly has "God in his house" supports a sexual behavior that He abhors and wants to change an institution (marriage) that He ordained in Genesis, the very first book in the Old Testament.

And what you'll actually illustrate in this sort of faux question is that you're comfortable casting aspersions instead of taking on issues, which isn't uncommon with people ruled by bias and emotions. Rather, God is an active part of my family's life, from church to discussions and prayer. Is that true for you?

I also don't "support" sinful behavior of any sort. You're not confused on the point given I've illustrated it plainly enough. For those who might be new to the methodology of aCW, he tried this a long time ago and my answer (which he's never had a rebuttal for) was this: I can support free speech without supporting every use of it. So I support the Klan's right to march and speak while being diametrically opposed to their message. aCW knows this. He's being dishonest.

Similarly, the institution of marriage from a Biblical perspective remains unaltered, no matter what is done in relation to the state contract, which has been entered into by atheists and Hindus and all sorts of people who don't consecrate it via the Christian religion.

So tell me, aCW, does the God you worship condone willful and repeated dishonesty? Or is that just you?

But since I'm here to talk about racism in America and leftwing organizations that are responsible for it

No, racism wasn't born of the ideology that ended it, though there are all sorts of legitimate arguments to be made against any number of well intentioned programs that didn't accomplish their goal and some which arguably made things worse.

As we saw in the above post, the ACLU just doesn't want God anywhere near public school children.

Another lie. I've posted links that aCW witnessed where the ACLU actually has fought to open schools to Bible clubs, by way of. School sponsored prayer is simply a different thing, as per my answer that (as usual) he avoids.

With all of the hatred that America has towards Blacks (aCW checks to see if race baiter B. Hussein Obama has told us that yet again today), one would think that the best way to overcome that hatred would be to allow God, whose 2nd greatest commandment is "Love thy neighbor as yourself" into the public arena.

God isn't being prohibited from the public square, though the best way to combat racism would be for those who believe in Him to live their faith in practice, loving their neighbor and being an example of that love in action.

Not only does the communist founded ACLU

Again, accepting the premise, this nation was founded by racists. So? It means that people with bad ideas in one manner can have a pretty great idea else.

Under that mask of hatred is most likely an ACLU lawyer (did I mention that the KKK was founded by democrats?).

When Democrats, in the South, were the conservatives and Lincoln's republicans were the progressives. Sure. Context is important.

Now the South is mostly republican. It isn't because the region suddenly turned progressive either. :nono:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

"A" is a very popular letter when it comes to white guilt ridden liberals and their promotion of racism.

Abortion
American Civil Liberties Union
AIDS

Have I mentioned that Black Americans disproportionately are afflicted with that homosexual disease known as HIV/AIDS?

(From the white supremacist organization: the Centers for Disease Control/CDC)

"African Americans are the racial/ethnic group most affected by HIV.
The rate of new HIV infection in African Americans is 8 times that of whites based on population size.
Gay and bisexual men account for most new infections among African Americans; young gay and bisexual men aged 13 to 24 are the most affected of this group.

Blacks/African Americans* have the most severe burden of HIV of all racial/ethnic groups in the United States. Compared with other races and ethnicities, African Americans account for a higher proportion of new HIV infections, those living with HIV, and those ever diagnosed with AIDS."

Read more (if you can handle white supremacist propaganda).

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/racialethnic/aa/facts/index.html

If you think the letter "A" was informative, wait until I get to the letter "B" ("B" as in Barack Hussein Obama, the race baiter in Chief).

 

[Town Heretic]

See aCW run from reason and rebuttal. And this, kids, is why you rarely find me in a thread of his. It's just a parade of bluster on his part with a demonstrated want of interest or ability to answer.

:e4e:

 

[The Berean]

I wish we had some African-American TOLers to comment and get their point of view. Maybe we do and we just don't know? I can only remember one TOLer who stated he was African-American. I seem to remember he was a young guy, an agnostic, whose dad was a dentist.

 

[aikido7]

I am glad I have found places to rent without being told the apartment or flat has already been rented.

 

[chair]

So who all of the sudden made hatred a "civil right"? Either we're going to celebrate racial/religious hatred in our country or not. You can't have it both ways.

Free Speech is a civil right. This has nothing to do with celebrating hatred.

 

[aikido7]

...Barack Hussein Obama, the race baiter in Chief).

Glenn Beck once said on FOX "News" that the president had "a deep-seated hatred of white people," which he eventually apologized for and admitted he was speaking in error.

I have found that many conservatives evaluate any mention of racism are in fact being racists. They do not, in my view, appreciate being confronted with black/white inequality and the thought of America still being racist is very uncomfortable for them so they project their own dysfunctions onto others.

 

[chair]

... so they project their own dysfunctions onto others.

I don't see anything like that happening in this thread. Just calm, reasoned argument.

 

[aikido7]

I don't see anything like that happening in this thread. Just calm, reasoned argument.

I look at patterns in people's comments and try to read between the lines.

Your yourself mentioned that some lawyers are Jewish. Why did you mention that? I think there was no need to do so.

As far as projection is concerned, we humans are rarely able to acknowledge our own inner qualities of dysfunction and evil, so instead of attending to the "logs in our own eye" first, we tend to deny our inner truth and point to others as those who embody those qualities.

 

[TomO]

Your yourself mentioned that some lawyers are Jewish. Why did you mention that? I think there was no need to do so.

Obviously Chair is an antisemite. lain:

 

[Rusha]

I look at patterns in people's comments and try to read between the lines.

Your yourself mentioned that some lawyers are Jewish. Why did you mention that? I think there was no need to do so.

For some, there is cause to *read between the lines*. In the case of Chair, that is not necessary.

 

[chair]

I look at patterns in people's comments and try to read between the lines.

Your yourself mentioned that some lawyers are Jewish. Why did you mention that? I think there was no need to do so.

As far as projection is concerned, we humans are rarely able to acknowledge our own inner qualities of dysfunction and evil, so instead of attending to the "logs in our own eye" first, we tend to deny our inner truth and point to others as those who embody those qualities.

I mentioned that because I am Jewish, and at the time I found it astounding that a Jew would defend a Nazi's right to have a demonstration.

By the way, do you remember that scene in The Blues Brothers? (no need to analyze this comment)